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Why Tall Men Have Prettier Girlfriends: WHAT SCIENCE TELLS US ABOUT HEIGHT AND ATTRACTION, THE CEILING EFFECT, WHY 6 FEET TALL IS THE BENCHMARK AND WHY YOU SHOULD DATE WOMEN SHORTER THAN YOU.

by Christopher Philip

It's a fact of life. Height is just one of those things we can do very little, if anything, about, and yet it is so very important in dating and attraction. I will go through a variety of points to show you exactly how important it is and what researchers have found about the preferences women have when it comes to this quality. The end result might bring tears, but there is no sense ignoring good hard science. By acknowledging the reality of the situation, you can use your approaches on women more selectively and sparingly, you can employ lifts in your shoes or you can use one of those stretching machines! Really, there isn't a whole lot that can be done to fix inherent height issues, but by knowing about their existence, you can modify your "game" and end up more successful in dating. Acting according to what the science says is the best way to work most efficiently. Without wasting any more time, let's get straight into the research.

According to Hartfeil and Sprechler (1986) height is one of the most important characteristics determining overall physical attractiveness as determined by women. I doubt that any reasonable person would refute this statement. However, at the same time, one may not understand the extent of its importance. The male taller norm is the cardinal rule of dating. Gillis and Avis (1980) took information collected from bank account applications and found that only 2 couples out of 720 consisted of a pair in which the woman was taller than the man. This is an outstandingly large number. This means that you have less than a one percent chance of courting and marrying a woman who is taller than you. Having a small chance does not mean no chance at all though. Being shorter simply means that you are going to have to work harder to get a woman who is taller. Tall women are looking for the same qualities as short women after all. However, if she is taller than you, she will expect more in terms of resources and power to make up for the height difference.

In a study by Hensley (1994) women preferred a man who was 72 inches (183 cm) tall as a benchmark. The preference for the six foot tall man is overwhelming, says Hensley. In his study, consisting of 145 females, 32 percent reported this as their preferred height. Thirty-two percent is not everyone, and most certainly not the majority, so this statistic might give you hope! The 68 percent of women who don't prefer the 6 foot tall man are also potential suitors, and must be considered. However, fundamentally there are even fewer that are suitable for you because some of these women might prefer men who are taller or even shorter than you regardless of what height you happen to be, further shrinking your pool of eligible women. Here comes the better news. In a study by Cameron (1978) it was found that 100 percent of the women advertised the desire to date a man who was 4 inches taller than themselves. Hensley's (1994) study, mentioned above, showed that on average, women and men both prefer the man to be 2 to 3 inches taller than the woman in a relationship. Why is this news better? It's better for the simple fact that it destroys the 6 foot tall benchmark rule. That is, men aren't at a huge disadvantage just because they aren't all 6 feet tall. Men simply must be taller then the women they seek. It is much easier to change your target date than it is to change your height! Furthermore, a study by Shepperd and Strathman (1989) revealed that 95 percent of the female participants preferred a taller man, 3 percent the same height and 2 percent preferred males shorter than themselves. Therefore it suggests that it is not the absolute height but rather the relative height that matters the most. Finally, we have something to work from! If we accept this information, and we should, than we also accept that you and I, and everyone else, will have a far better chance of getting what we want from a woman who is shorter than ourselves.

As you might expect, height has been shown to be more important to men than to women's attractiveness. So why is it that women find height to be so important? Beigel's (1954) study showed that people attribute everything from dominance, superiority, fearlessness, protectiveness, ambitiousness, leadership qualities, athleticism and sheer physical strength to tall people over shorter people. Tall men also tended to command attention from others, which women found appealing.

If all this wasn't enough, tall men also get other societal fringe benefits. Not only is height important in dating, it has also been shown that taller men (about 6 feet 2 inches and over) have higher starting salaries. They are also more likely to be hired in the first place, particularly by sales recruiters. They are more often selected as leaders and chosen for corporate training programs.

So if you are short what can you do about it? Not a hell of a lot, that's for sure! You must at least accept that these rules apply. All the bitching in the world will never change this. Just accept it, and then deal with it. If you are short, get rich and powerful, then nothing else matters! If you are tall, enjoy the perks - at least until you get to the next paragraph where I will discuss the ceiling effect. There is one other bit of information that may be of assistance. It is taken from Wilson (1968) in Lerner and Moore (1974) who showed that height estimates were related to academic status. That is, as the man's academic status increased, he was also judged to be taller. This means that if you make yourself out to be smarter or as having a more prestigious occupation, then you are more likely to be thought of as taller. Therefore, it is possible to boost your status to boost your perceived height, be it only temporarily. At the end of the night when you are standing face to face (or face to breast!) she will surely note your exact height regardless of your occupation.

Interestingly, there seems to be a "ceiling effect" where tall males (over 6 feet) suffer a decrease in fitness. That is, women tend to find extremely tall men less attractive. This has been noted by several researchers. Women tend to prefer men of a medium stature over really tall men or really short men. In a study by Graziano et. al. (1978) similar results showed that men of medium height (5'9"- 5'11") were rated as more attractive over shorter (5'5"- 5'7") or taller men (6'2"- 6'4"), regardless of the height of the women (4'10"- 6'1"). This means that if you aren't average, or slightly above average, then you are going to have to work hard to attract mates.

No question, as the research shows, height is important in the dating marketplace. Men are dated more frequently when they are taller, have a social advantage over shorter men, and even have been shown to have prettier girlfriends. Therefore, searching for a mate is more difficult if you are short. However, if you are shorter, look on the bright side – women report dating men more frequently who are taller than themselves but do not necessarily rate them as better looking. I'm sure that really matters, right?

References

Beigel H.G. 1954. Body height in mate selection. Journal of Social Psychology 39: 257-268.

Bercheid E. and E. Walster. 1974. Physical attractiveness. L. Berkowitz, ed. Advances in Experimental Social Psychology. Academic Press, New York.

Cameron C., S. Oskamp and W. Sparks. 1978. Courtship American style: newspaper advertisements. Family Coordinator 26: 27-30.

Feingold A. 1982. Do taller men have prettier girlfriends? Psychological Reports 50: 810.

Gillis J.S. and W.E. Avis. 1980. The male-taller norm in mate selection. Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin 6: 396-401.

Graziano W., T. Brothen and E. Berscheid. 1978. Height and attraction: Do men and women see eye-to-eye? Journal of Personality 46: 128-145.

Hartfeil E. and S. Sprechler. 1986. Mirror, Mirror…The Importance of Looks in Everyday Life. State University of New York Press, Albany.

Hensley W.E. 1994. Height as a basis for interpersonal attraction. Adolescence 29: 469-474.

Kurtz, D.L. 1969. Physical appearance and stature: important variables in sales recruiting Personnel Journal December: 981-983.

Pawlowski B., R.I.M. Dunbar, and A. Lipowicz. 2000. Tall men have more reproductive success. Nature 403: 184.

Pierce C.A. 1996. Body height and romantic attraction: a meta-analytic test of the male-taller norm. Social Behavior and Personality 24: 143-150.

Shepperd J.A. and A.J. Strathman. 1989. Attractiveness and height: the role of stature in dating preference, frequency of dating, and perceptions of attractiveness.

Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin 15: 617-627.

Stogdill R. 1948. Personal factors associated with leadership. Journal of Psychology 25:35-71.

Wilson P.R. 1968. Perceptual distortion of height as a function of ascribed academic status. Journal of Social Psychology 74: 97-107.

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Boo this. What happens if your 5'4"!?!


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Boo this. What happens if your 5'4"!?!
lol are you 5'4"? If you are you are well aware of this "problem". Plenty of stuff out there on how to combat it and it's very likely that shorter men are the exception to the rule for the simple fact that most women are taller then them. As a norm though, its easier to get women 2-4 inches shorter then you so that's always a place to start. There are exceptions to every norm though, that's the beauty of life. By the way, there are plenty of 5' tall women out there!

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Nice post. Glad I'm 6'1.


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Weird,

I can empathise with some of that, but i'm 6 foot 5 and i've not really experienced the ceiling effect, or at least, that it's never come up as a problem before with girls.

Odd. I've always found my height to be advantageous.

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Honestly, that's one weak ass study.
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Gillis and Avis (1980) took information collected from bank account applications and found that only 2 couples out of 720 consisted of a pair in which the woman was taller than the man.
Well there's a shocker considering that male's on average are about 6 inches taller. Notice it also makes no disparity between the difference in height. It treats couples w/ a height difference of 11" the same as couples w/ a height difference of 1".
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In a study by Hensley (1994) women preferred a man who was 72 inches (183 cm) tall as a benchmark. The preference for the six foot tall man is overwhelming, says Hensley. In his study, consisting of 145 females, 32 percent reported this as their preferred height.
First of all, anyone who's spent any kind of time socially interacting with woman knows that what women say they want and what they actually want are completely different things. Second in a country w/ a population of around 300 million, 145 is all he can get to conduct his survey. Third 145 hardly represents a remotely accurate cross section of approximately 150 MILLION women.


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If we accept this information, and we should, than we also accept that you and I, and everyone else, will have a far better chance of getting what we want from a woman who is shorter than ourselves.
Really, I believe it, just because you told me I should.
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If all this wasn't enough, tall men also get other societal fringe benefits. Not only is height important in dating, it has also been shown that taller men (about 6 feet 2 inches and over) have higher starting salaries. They are also more likely to be hired in the first place, particularly by sales recruiters. They are more often selected as leaders and chosen for corporate training programs.
Absolutely, because height is the ONLY determining factor in a successful career. Are men who are taller more likely to have Alpha qualities that lead to work place success, I think so. Is it significant enough to support a conclusion, no.


Honestly, if I had tried to run this past any of my high school science teachers, it would have looked like they slit their wrists over the paper.

From experience and what I have seen w/ my own two eyes during my short 25 years on this earth, height is one of those things that is what you make of it. I've seen and known many men who were absolutely horrible w/ women that stood above six feet, and some of the greatest ladies men I've known stood well under six feet.

I contend that height is how you perceive it. Those short guys who are great with women have no issues w/ their height. To them it doesn't even factor.

To keep this from getting much longer, I guess what I'm trying to say, who gives a damn how tall you are. If she thinks you're too tall or too short, that sounds like her problem, not yours. And if that's her discriminating factor, well then she'll never know what she's missing out on.

If you're still not sure just look at how "tall" Neil Strauss is.

*EDIT* For the record I stand just under 6'.

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I'm 5'10.25"
I doubt women can tell the 2" difference.


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I've known girls that would only date tall guys, but I've also known girls that only dated guys of a height close to their own. I think that study is bunk.
I think the goal is not to rely on your height if your tall, and not to over compensate if your short. The average European male is 5'9 according to the discovery channel, and if 6' Tall males were that much more dominant there the average height would be taller.


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I am 5'4". So its easier to move in and out of places without attracting attention. I wouldn't mind some attraction tactics for shortness, besides good posture. I haven't been threatened by too many people, so that's a plus.


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I'm 5'6"ish (you're never exactly sure how tall you are when you're short... maybe 5'7" today? maybe?) and while there are definitely disadvantages, I also find that there are a few advantages. First of all, you can get away with a lot more kino and you can afford to be a lot more high energy because you are less physically intimidating to women. Men don't think about it a lot because it's basically a non-issue (unless you're a jackass) but the threat to women of being assaulted in some way is very real and ALWAYS on their minds to some degree. Larger men have to give girls more space and have to be a lot slower and more deliberate with their movements. Us little guys can afford to violate their space a little more and have a lot more leeway to screw it up. I also find that it's a little easier to build rapport while standing because... well... your face is physically closer to them and it's easier to communicate. They aren't craning their necks and yelling up at someone.

All in all, us short guys have to work a little harder in the attraction phase, but if we can conquer that hurdle then I think we are actually at an advantage.


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im 6'6

it can be a good or bad thing, depends on your posture and how you hold yourself.

for me it's good because i'm alpha

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I'm 5'9 and used to consider myself vertically challenged. When I was an AFC it used to bother me, now it doesn't. However, that being said, I don't completely ignore my height.

I still do things to make myself appear taller. I wear medium-rise boot cut jeans (makes my legs look longer). As far as shoes go I make sure I'm wearing a pair with at least a nice 2" rise. Another trick is wearing shoes that have a pointy toe (think cowboy boots), pointy toe shoes make you look taller compared to shoes with a rounded or square toe. I like to wear fitted shirts that don't hang past my belt, the only exception is jeans/pants with an untucked dress shirt.

I'll still blatantly admit I wish I was 6'0, for more than just attracting women. It also helps in business. The average male CEO height is 6'0...3 inches taller than the overall average male height.

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im 6'1.5 and it hasnt gotten me SHIT! EVER!


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I would assume that it shows high S&R value. A girl wants an Alpha Male, a protector basically. Taller people have an advantage because height emulates a presence. But that doesn't mean that shorter PUA's can't get 10s. Look at Neil Strauss .


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I'm 5'6"ish (you're never exactly sure how tall you are when you're short... maybe 5'7" today? maybe?) and while there are definitely disadvantages, I also find that there are a few advantages. First of all, you can get away with a lot more kino and you can afford to be a lot more high energy because you are less physically intimidating to women. Men don't think about it a lot because it's basically a non-issue (unless you're a jackass) but the threat to women of being assaulted in some way is very real and ALWAYS on their minds to some degree. Larger men have to give girls more space and have to be a lot slower and more deliberate with their movements. Us little guys can afford to violate their space a little more and have a lot more leeway to screw it up. I also find that it's a little easier to build rapport while standing because... well... your face is physically closer to them and it's easier to communicate. They aren't craning their necks and yelling up at someone.

All in all, us short guys have to work a little harder in the attraction phase, but if we can conquer that hurdle then I think we are actually at an advantage.
Great post I like it. Using the reality of things to your advantage. Kudos!

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