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I just don't leave my dick out of the decision-making process. Since you say my advice isn't geared towards any relationship, explain why it isn't. Don't make a broad statement without proof. Do like I do when I break your bullshit advice down.

How do you know that these guys can't be genuine? You just make excuses for why the guys that go down the path that you advise fail without addressing the real issue. It rarely works.
Jack, are you familiar with hypocrisy? You make broad statements, and then expect more from others? I pointed out your generalizations in this thread long before you decided to play copycat. And DEFINITELY leave your dick out of the decision making process.

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I just don't leave my dick out of the decision-making process. Since you say my advice isn't geared towards any relationship, explain why it isn't. Don't make a broad statement without proof. Do like I do when I break your bullshit advice down.

How do you know that these guys can't be genuine? You just make excuses for why the guys that go down the path that you advise fail without addressing the real issue. It rarely works.
Jack, are you familiar with hypocrisy? You make broad statements, and then expect more from others? I pointed out your generalizations in this thread long before you decided to play copycat. And DEFINITELY leave your dick out of the decision making process.
No, you haven't explained why my advice can't lead to a relationship. Explain it.

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No, you haven't explained why my advice can't lead to a relationship. Explain it.
You're thinking with your dick - jumping the gun, trying to get straight to flirting and getting sexual. Women who want to get into something serious don't think with their clit and put sexual activities first. Both parties need to know what they want from a partner first and foremost - and then seek to find these qualities in them as soon as possible (character, personality, aspirations, etc. - the "looks" hurdle should be passed before a single word is exchanged, so I'm leaving it out). If the match is right and the chemistry is there, the sex will come naturally. "LMR" is something that won't exist... well, unless she's on her period. Jumping the gun to the sexual part is like orgasm before you even get stimulated. Intimacy and emotional connection, Jack - have you heard of this stuff? It's important in a relationship, but doesn't materialize in 5 minutes.

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You're thinking with your dick - jumping the gun, trying to get straight to flirting and getting sexual.
If you say thinking with your dick means that I talk to women that I am sexually attracted to, you're right. Flirting leads to being a sexual option. Just because you don't do it doesn't mean that it doesn't work.
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Women who want to get into something serious don't think with their clit and put sexual activities first.
If you've read anything when it comes to my advice, I'm saying flirt and be interesting. Most attractive women aren't going to say that they aren looking at the guy that they've just met thinking "relationship". That's desperate thinking. They are going to get to know him first before deciding that they want a relationship. If you flirt with a woman and she thinks you're interesting and charming, she'll look for other things to find attractive about you. If you small talk a woman, she's not going to look for reasons to find you attractive even if you are interesting.
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Both parties need to know what they want from a partner first and foremost - and then seek to find these qualities in them as soon as possible (character, personality, aspirations, etc. - the "looks" hurdle should be passed before a single word is exchanged, so I'm leaving it out).
This is just wrong. It'll be a while before you truly know the good and bad qualities about a person. This is why you take your time getting to know a woman before you get into a relationship so you can know the real them and not the person that they initially present themselves to be.
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If the match is right and the chemistry is there, the sex will come naturally. "LMR" is something that won't exist... well, unless she's on her period.
If the mood is right the sex will come naturally without LMR. You can have great sex with a woman that you don't plan to have a relationship with. This is where you and I disagree big time. You cast judgement on those that don't share your wants and needs and you remain closed minded about that. If that's right for you and you have it, I'm happy for you and won't belittle you for it. As you like to point out, you're projecting.
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Intimacy and emotional connection, Jack - have you heard of this stuff? It's important in a relationship, but doesn't materialize in 5 minutes.
You don't have to have an emotional connection for intimacy. Drop that as an argument. If you have intimacy before the emotional connection, it doesn't mean that the emotional connection can't manifest afterwards.

Your entire explanation of how my advice can't lead to a relationship hasn't been explained. You just can't perceive or understand outside of your realm of experience. That's not unusual because you don't know what you don't know. Attraction, seduction, relationships do not have to be in a linear order. What you are advocating is considered societally acceptable but not mandatory and often doesn't work because it doesn't create a spark like the seduction we advocate here because our goal is to sweep a woman off of her feet. You can sweep a woman off of her feet, have sex with her the same day and in two or three months be in a monogamous relationship with her or have sex the same day and never see her again. You don't believe in keeping your options open with women, but I do.

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I eventually found out that the guy is actually the director of a huge model agency in Japan. That explains a lot :lol:

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I eventually found out that the guy is actually the director of a huge model agency in Japan. That explains a lot :lol:

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If you say thinking with your dick means that I talk to women that I am sexually attracted to, you're right. Flirting leads to being a sexual option. Just because you don't do it doesn't mean that it doesn't work.
No, you just put too much value into the sex and not the person you’re talking to. People (women) usually don’t appreciate that, unless they are into sleeping around. And denying it won’t change that. Anyone impartial and capable of rational thought can see it. And thanks for that comment in the end of the quote, you need to read it over again.
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If you've read anything when it comes to my advice, I'm saying flirt and be interesting. Most attractive women aren't going to say that they aren looking at the guy that they've just met thinking "relationship". That's desperate thinking. They are going to get to know him first before deciding that they want a relationship. If you flirt with a woman and she thinks you're interesting and charming, she'll look for other things to find attractive about you. If you small talk a woman, she's not going to look for reasons to find you attractive even if you are interesting.
“Be interesting” is definitely a big L-O-L moment. Thanks for that. Truthfully, this is where most guys need the most help and they’ll never really fix that issue.
Flirting is great, no doubt, if you do it right. One way to really screw yourself is to just start macking on a girl. Nothing screams “I just want to sleep with you” more than that. This is what you are advocating with your obsession with flirting. You can build attraction with INTERESTING small talk. You can build comfort with small talk. The flirting isn’t the first step. Let’s call it the third step… Most guys can’t even do the first two, so talking about flirting is often pointless.
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This is just wrong. It'll be a while before you truly know the good and bad qualities about a person. This is why you take your time getting to know a woman before you get into a relationship so you can know the real them and not the person that they initially present themselves to be.
I have no idea what you even responded to here… you need to be on the prowl for the good/bad qualities right off the bat and you also need to know what you’re looking for before you even bother meeting women.
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If the mood is right the sex will come naturally without LMR. You can have great sex with a woman that you don't plan to have a relationship with. This is where you and I disagree big time. You cast judgement on those that don't share your wants and needs and you remain closed minded about that. If that's right for you and you have it, I'm happy for you and won't belittle you for it. As you like to point out, you're projecting.
Actually I don’t disagree with that. Where did I ever say that? Yeah, you can have pretty good sex with a woman and not plan on having a relationship with her. As long as both parties are aware of what’s going on – that’s cool with me. I think that the sex is *better*, however, with the things which I mentioned. And that goes DOUBLE for women, if you listen to a thing which they say about their sexual wants and desires.

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No, you just put too much value into the sex and not the person you’re talking to. People (women) usually don’t appreciate that, unless they are into sleeping around. And denying it won’t change that. Anyone impartial and capable of rational thought can see it. And thanks for that comment in the end of the quote, you need to read it over again.
Women experience sexual attraction just like men do. And denying it won't change that. I'm not sure who taught you about women, but you're the type of guy that makes women not comfortable being sexually liberated. There's a reason that women aren't comfortable being sexual with a guy...it's because they are constantly judged.
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“Be interesting” is definitely a big L-O-L moment. Thanks for that. Truthfully, this is where most guys need the most help and they’ll never really fix that issue.
Flirting is great, no doubt, if you do it right. One way to really screw yourself is to just start macking on a girl. Nothing screams “I just want to sleep with you” more than that. This is what you are advocating with your obsession with flirting. You can build attraction with INTERESTING small talk. You can build comfort with small talk. The flirting isn’t the first step. Let’s call it the third step… Most guys can’t even do the first two, so talking about flirting is often pointless.
I get it. You care if a girl thinks that you want to fuck her and you want guys to hide that. Me, I don't care if a girl knows. It doesn't mean that she can't enjoy herself around me if we're not having sex or I can't enjoy myself around women if I'm not having sex with them. However, I don't shy away from what I desire.
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I have no idea what you even responded to here… you need to be on the prowl for the good/bad qualities right off the bat and you also need to know what you’re looking for before you even bother meeting women.
No you don't have to be on the prowl for good/bad qualities. That's kind of stupid. Those things present themselves as they happen. No, you don't need to know what you're looking for in a woman before even bothering to meet them. You just have to be attracted to them and then get to know them. As you're getting to know them, you can figure out if they are worth having in your life.
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Actually I don’t disagree with that. Where did I ever say that? Yeah, you can have pretty good sex with a woman and not plan on having a relationship with her. As long as both parties are aware of what’s going on – that’s cool with me. I think that the sex is *better*, however, with the things which I mentioned. And that goes DOUBLE for women, if you listen to a thing which they say about their sexual wants and desires.
You said "If the match is right and the chemistry is there, the sex will come naturally. "LMR" is something that won't exist". That's bullshit. Sex comes naturally with a lot of people who don't match as a couple.

I have this good friend and she went to Quebec a few months back. She is considered a "good girl" from most people's POV. Up until her visit she had only two sexual partners and they were both boyfriends. She met this French guy that was visiting Canada at a club and he spoke no English. She didn't speak any French, but they were having a good time dancing and it turned into kissing until it ended up back in her hotel room and they had sex. They weren't a match, they didn't get to know each other, there was just the mood. She said it was the best sex she had ever had up until that point.

I'm not sure what church you're going to when it comes to understanding women's sexual desires, but you have a habit of putting words into people's mouths that they haven't said. You've done it with Neo. You do it with me. I'm sure you're doing that with women now. If you knew women's sexual wants and desires...their thoughts are much more sexually liberated than men's. They will do things that most men won't imagine. They'll tell you about having a fantasy of having sex with a man that they don't know...hell, most women have a rape fantasy. This flowery, chastity belt wearing woman that you are portraying women to be isn't reality.

BTW...who says "macking" anymore?

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Women experience sexual attraction just like men do. And denying it won't change that. I'm not sure who taught you about women, but you're the type of guy that makes women not comfortable being sexually liberated. There's a reason that women aren't comfortable being sexual with a guy...it's because they are constantly judged.
Hahahha.. what the hell are you even on about? Just because women like sex, doesn’t mean they need to sleep with every guy they “sort of” like. Yeah buddy, let’s just have a society where everyone fucks everyone. Right in front of one another. That’s what you want? People can and should judge one another based on actions and words. Why wouldn’t they?
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I get it. You care if a girl thinks that you want to fuck her and you want guys to hide that. Me, I don't care if a girl knows. It doesn't mean that she can't enjoy herself around me if we're not having sex or I can't enjoy myself around women if I'm not having sex with them. However, I don't shy away from what I desire.
Want a round of applause or what? Again, there’s a LOT more to women than their “sexual bits”, and women who have anything going for them want to be appreciated for things other than their “sexual bits.” They also know that they can have sex with you – whether you are extremely upfront about it or reserve it a little bit. Again, there’s an order here that makes sense. And sexual stuff doesn’t come up first, unless you want to scare off all of the somewhat more conservative women out there, and not the ones that sleep around with everyone.
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No you don't have to be on the prowl for good/bad qualities. That's kind of stupid. Those things present themselves as they happen. No, you don't need to know what you're looking for in a woman before even bothering to meet them. You just have to be attracted to them and then get to know them. As you're getting to know them, you can figure out if they are worth having in your life.
What a load of crap. If you don’t know what you’re looking for you’re wasting your time. Unless you’re just thinking with your dick. Hello, Jack! You can figure this out both by meeting women like you said, yes, but also by actually figuring out what’s important to you from an opposite sex partner. Waiting for negative things to present themselves is just you wasting your time. Example… what if you don’t want to date a smoker? You end up going on 3 dates and then she whips out a cigarette – which is a deal breaker for you. You just wasted 3 nights, unless you just want to get your dick wet. This sounds like you, of course. Far better would have been to ask her around the 1st date or before that if she smokes and then just avoid dating her at all.
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You said "If the match is right and the chemistry is there, the sex will come naturally. "LMR" is something that won't exist". That's bullshit. Sex comes naturally with a lot of people who don't match as a couple.

I have this good friend and she went to Quebec a few months back. She is considered a "good girl" from most people's POV. Up until her visit she had only two sexual partners and they were both boyfriends. She met this French guy that was visiting Canada at a club and he spoke no English. She didn't speak any French, but they were having a good time dancing and it turned into kissing until it ended up back in her hotel room and they had sex. They weren't a match, they didn't get to know each other, there was just the mood. She said it was the best sex she had ever had up until that point.

I'm not sure what church you're going to when it comes to understanding women's sexual desires, but you have a habit of putting words into people's mouths that they haven't said. You've done it with Neo. You do it with me. I'm sure you're doing that with women now. If you knew women's sexual wants and desires...their thoughts are much more sexually liberated than men's. They will do things that most men won't imagine. They'll tell you about having a fantasy of having sex with a man that they don't know...hell, most women have a rape fantasy. This flowery, chastity belt wearing woman that you are portraying women to be isn't reality.

BTW...who says "macking" anymore?
Yawn… so this one girl had some lame boyfriends and needed a quick romp and got it – and it was great, and that means that as a whole, the less-intimate sex is better than more-intimate sex? Yeah, everyone is totally buying that.
“Most women have a rape fantasy” Source?
“They will do things that most men won't imagine.” Actually more women would rather have intercourse than give head. (CDC data). You just hang around with some really REALLY loose chicks, Jack.
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You don't have to have an emotional connection for intimacy. Drop that as an argument. If you have intimacy before the emotional connection, it doesn't mean that the emotional connection can't manifest afterwards.

Your entire explanation of how my advice can't lead to a relationship hasn't been explained. You just can't perceive or understand outside of your realm of experience. That's not unusual because you don't know what you don't know. Attraction, seduction, relationships do not have to be in a linear order. What you are advocating is considered societally acceptable but not mandatory and often doesn't work because it doesn't create a spark like the seduction we advocate here because our goal is to sweep a woman off of her feet. You can sweep a woman off of her feet, have sex with her the same day and in two or three months be in a monogamous relationship with her or have sex the same day and never see her again. You don't believe in keeping your options open with women, but I do.
I never said anything about intimacy and emotional connection being mutually inclusive or exclusive. These are partly related, but I never commented on their relationship. I only said that they are important in people developing a connection and becoming sexually uninhibited, ESPECIALLY women.
And your vague flirting bullshit isn’t going to be sweeping any women off of their feet. That’s for sure. Maybe I’m used to a different caliber of women than you are…

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Women experience sexual attraction just like men do. And denying it won't change that. I'm not sure who taught you about women, but you're the type of guy that makes women not comfortable being sexually liberated. There's a reason that women aren't comfortable being sexual with a guy...it's because they are constantly judged.
Hahahha.. what the hell are you even on about? Just because women like sex, doesn’t mean they need to sleep with every guy they “sort of” like. Yeah buddy, let’s just have a society where everyone fucks everyone. Right in front of one another. That’s what you want? People can and should judge one another based on actions and words. Why wouldn’t they?
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I get it. You care if a girl thinks that you want to fuck her and you want guys to hide that. Me, I don't care if a girl knows. It doesn't mean that she can't enjoy herself around me if we're not having sex or I can't enjoy myself around women if I'm not having sex with them. However, I don't shy away from what I desire.
Want a round of applause or what? Again, there’s a LOT more to women than their “sexual bits”, and women who have anything going for them want to be appreciated for things other than their “sexual bits.” They also know that they can have sex with you – whether you are extremely upfront about it or reserve it a little bit. Again, there’s an order here that makes sense. And sexual stuff doesn’t come up first, unless you want to scare off all of the somewhat more conservative women out there, and not the ones that sleep around with everyone.
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No you don't have to be on the prowl for good/bad qualities. That's kind of stupid. Those things present themselves as they happen. No, you don't need to know what you're looking for in a woman before even bothering to meet them. You just have to be attracted to them and then get to know them. As you're getting to know them, you can figure out if they are worth having in your life.
What a load of crap. If you don’t know what you’re looking for you’re wasting your time. Unless you’re just thinking with your dick. Hello, Jack! You can figure this out both by meeting women like you said, yes, but also by actually figuring out what’s important to you from an opposite sex partner. Waiting for negative things to present themselves is just you wasting your time. Example… what if you don’t want to date a smoker? You end up going on 3 dates and then she whips out a cigarette – which is a deal breaker for you. You just wasted 3 nights, unless you just want to get your dick wet. This sounds like you, of course. Far better would have been to ask her around the 1st date or before that if she smokes and then just avoid dating her at all.
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You said "If the match is right and the chemistry is there, the sex will come naturally. "LMR" is something that won't exist". That's bullshit. Sex comes naturally with a lot of people who don't match as a couple.

I have this good friend and she went to Quebec a few months back. She is considered a "good girl" from most people's POV. Up until her visit she had only two sexual partners and they were both boyfriends. She met this French guy that was visiting Canada at a club and he spoke no English. She didn't speak any French, but they were having a good time dancing and it turned into kissing until it ended up back in her hotel room and they had sex. They weren't a match, they didn't get to know each other, there was just the mood. She said it was the best sex she had ever had up until that point.

I'm not sure what church you're going to when it comes to understanding women's sexual desires, but you have a habit of putting words into people's mouths that they haven't said. You've done it with Neo. You do it with me. I'm sure you're doing that with women now. If you knew women's sexual wants and desires...their thoughts are much more sexually liberated than men's. They will do things that most men won't imagine. They'll tell you about having a fantasy of having sex with a man that they don't know...hell, most women have a rape fantasy. This flowery, chastity belt wearing woman that you are portraying women to be isn't reality.

BTW...who says "macking" anymore?
Yawn… so this one girl had some lame boyfriends and needed a quick romp and got it – and it was great, and that means that as a whole, the less-intimate sex is better than more-intimate sex? Yeah, everyone is totally buying that.
“Most women have a rape fantasy” Source?
“They will do things that most men won't imagine.” Actually more women would rather have intercourse than give head. (CDC data). You just hang around with some really REALLY loose chicks, Jack.
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You don't have to have an emotional connection for intimacy. Drop that as an argument. If you have intimacy before the emotional connection, it doesn't mean that the emotional connection can't manifest afterwards.

Your entire explanation of how my advice can't lead to a relationship hasn't been explained. You just can't perceive or understand outside of your realm of experience. That's not unusual because you don't know what you don't know. Attraction, seduction, relationships do not have to be in a linear order. What you are advocating is considered societally acceptable but not mandatory and often doesn't work because it doesn't create a spark like the seduction we advocate here because our goal is to sweep a woman off of her feet. You can sweep a woman off of her feet, have sex with her the same day and in two or three months be in a monogamous relationship with her or have sex the same day and never see her again. You don't believe in keeping your options open with women, but I do.
I never said anything about intimacy and emotional connection being mutually inclusive or exclusive. These are partly related, but I never commented on their relationship. I only said that they are important in people developing a connection and becoming sexually uninhibited, ESPECIALLY women.
And your vague flirting bullshit isn’t going to be sweeping any women off of their feet. That’s for sure. Maybe I’m used to a different caliber of women than you are…
Decided not to read. You're here to argue. At some point someone will take your advice and come back and post their results. I've already had lots of guys thanking me for my advice because it did help with their relationships and just to get a girl. Once you get someone posting how your advice helped them, you'll gain some credibility when it comes to what you're talking about.

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Decided not to read. You're here to argue. At some point someone will take your advice and come back and post their results. I've already had lots of guys thanking me for my advice because it did help with their relationships and just to get a girl. Once you get someone posting how your advice helped them, you'll gain some credibility when it comes to what you're talking about.
Pot and kettle again? You’re hilarious.

I really do hope that your track record is “stellar” and helps guys in the long run. Unfortunately, other than some supposed “thank you” notes, it’s hard to know what helped who and when. That and the ever-present Placebo effect.

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Decided not to read. You're here to argue. At some point someone will take your advice and come back and post their results. I've already had lots of guys thanking me for my advice because it did help with their relationships and just to get a girl. Once you get someone posting how your advice helped them, you'll gain some credibility when it comes to what you're talking about.
Pot and kettle again? You’re hilarious.

I really do hope that your track record is “stellar” and helps guys in the long run. Unfortunately, other than some supposed “thank you” notes, it’s hard to know what helped who and when. That and the ever-present Placebo effect.
I'm sorry for giving you this attention. Your wife must be pissed that you are up at night arguing on the internet instead of being in bed making her toes curl.

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I'm sorry for giving you this attention. Your wife must be pissed that you are up at night arguing on the internet instead of being in bed making her toes curl.
You've just taken lame to the next level. Congratulations.

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You've just taken lame to the next level. Congratulations.
I had no idea that your name was actually Lame, I just thought it was your advice. Glad I could get you to that next level.

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