I'm not sure why you guys are saying it doesn't matter who brings it up, you literally can ride the single life until she finally says "you know i've been thinking", it's the perfect scenario. You're banging like 2 other girls on the side until your main girl starts to "fall" for you and you can decide if you want to make her your girlfriend after she verbally asks what are we.

I have to agree.

You should already have grown into a relationship by the time you're talking about it. By that point it's a mere stating the obvious formality.
Anything prior is premature, and a result of neediness.

Exactly. If giving her an ultimatum is needy, which I agree it is, isnt baiting her to give you an ultimatum just going to give you a needy gf? Trying to lock someone down is jumping the gun. 100% agree. Therefore, not growing into a relationship and letting her spring an ultimatum on you while you're fucking 2 other chicks, isnt that just jumping the gun as well? Instead of you 2 getting more invested, and both stop seeing other people, now she wants to lock you down, so she ultimatums you, you accept and its just 2 people in a relationship that started due to an ultimatum. If you wanted to fuck other chicks that very morning before she asks you, how does that change?

Never have ‘the talk’ to express an ultimatum,

In this fantasy, the girl who's about to ask you to be her boyfriend/exclusive knows you're sleeping with 2 other women, right?

When she told you she was a virgin, she should have felt that she lost points with you. You're grown, you have your views on sex, its importance and purpose. A chick telling you that she cant provide a need of yours, and she is going to inconvenience you for a while, should make you less attracted. She should sense that. This just means, putting your expectations first. You dont need to ultimatum her, if you truly put your needs first you'll act accordingly. Its kinda like if you go on a date with a chick and you dont have your own place. Well she's not gonna tell you that you need to find a place, but its a negative for you. She'll think abt long term less because hey she doesnt want to be sneaking into your mom's basement for the next few months. And you'll feel that energy where you know you lost points.

It's almost like everything is set to fuck up if you like the girl. Which is what I suspect happened in my case, she sensed that I was scared to lose her (because I liked her).

Yes. Which is why she needs to tie down this beautiful stallion to one shed.

It's a nice pipe dream, no doubt.

You really have no pickup experience lol

You really have no pickup experience lol

Yeah, and you're fantasizing about a girl who's worth a dime asking you to be exclusive while you're sleeping with TWO other women. Hahahahahah!

This is comedy gold. Butthurt Jack even had to chime in. I'm willing to wager NO ONE in this thread had a girl ask them to be exclusive while she knew other women (TWO!) were sleeping with them, and if she did, that relationship is long dead. Congratulations on ... nothing.

Keep peddling the serial-player fantasies gents, you're just giving false hope and cheap promises to guys who need completely different advice.

I'm only chiming in because you're a worthless presence on the forum and I know you can't resist defending yourself and have to resort to name calling and bashing everyone. It's a way for me to let everyone see you for who you really are.

And here's another example of where I'm doing the same thing. I'm letting all of the non-brainwashed newcomers see you for who you really are and pointing out obvious pipe dreams that they need to avoid. Keep yelling in the echo chamber, though, it if helps you sleep better.