(Perhaps I should say how do I stop caring what PEOPLE think of me, but I will limit it to girls for this post)

This may be something better addressed in counseling or whatever, but I've found that even though you have a professional counseling degree, that doesn't make you necessarily any better of a counselor than normal people, and I have been to a lot of counselors.

This is a story from a couple weeks ago. I was sitting at an outdoor restaurant down town, after winding up my night of going to a few bars/clubs. Out of the corner of my eye, there was a female figure talking to a guy. I noticed that at the deepest part of my psyche, I started to EXTREMELY CARE what she thought of me. I cared about the way I imagine that she was interpreting my looks, body language, everything.

I really wanted this complete stranger to like me.

Then, after about 5 minutes, I look at her for the first time and she is UGLY.

My mind is so caught up caring what everyone thinks of me that I can't even be myself and don't even know who I am.

How could I ever get to any sort of vulnerability or comfort when I have massive anxiety worrying about the opinions of complete strangers that turn out to be ugly after I muster the courage to look in their direction after 5 minutes.

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Until you stop caring you will never find yourself. Say you go to a bar and you chat a girl up, She is blatantly not interested and tells you so. So fucking what? The only people in the club who will know that you have been blown out are her and you. Dont tell people/friends/family that you are into pick up. Just keep approaching women. To be successfull you MUST stop giving a shit.

Here's something else I need to add:

In the book "Models" by Mark Manson, there is a line that says something like...

A woman will jump into bed with a man that is more invested in his opinion of himself than in her opinion of him.

And that when a woman says a guy has "it," what she means is that when he looks in his eyes, this is what she sees (the line I wrote above).

I think when girls look into my eyes, in the brief moments that I am brave enough to make eye contact with them, they see....

"This guy cares so much what I think of him that he would do anything for my approval and would probably kill himself if I said one thing that took him off his perch and triggered one of his insecurities."

Other than that, they probably think I'm a psycho if I'm in the wrong mood...

And would think that I would cheat on them if I ever had to opportunity if I ever got into a relationship with them, which is probably never going to happen for me because I have too many issues.

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Do this:

1) If you are depressed seek counselling

2) Try hypnotherapy - http://www.hypnosisdownloads.com/

3) Eat healthier and work out

4) Dress smarter, better

Good luck!

Thanks, but trust me, I've seen all the counselors in the world.

I was forced into the court-ordered mental health system a few years back. I have gotten to the point where I can predict my counselors words because I even tell them to him/her.

My last counselor told, "every time you get mad, start listening to music." This is advice that does not help.

And I have seen all the psychiatrists in the world also.

There is a limit to what they can do.

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Ok what about the other tips I suggested?

Richard, it sounds like you're almost in a constant panic attack.

I'd consider xanax (not judging, it's a common thing).

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Go to the fucking gym and TRAIN your body. Beat the fucking piss out of yourself. Tear yourself down. Realize the only one who can bring you down is you, mother fucker.

Trollingggggggg

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No, what can bring me down is my past.

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Then you're just a pussy little bitch who can't get over shit. Move the fuck on. My past is beyond fucked.... I just laugh at it. Here I was fed this Disney story of how life should be... then I turned out the way I turned out. I am who I a.

Shut up and stop being a little bitch, pussy.

Your past isn't some mystical force that grabs at you. They are memories and emotions that you associate with those memories. Short of injury or sickness, emotions have zero impact on your world. Instead, you have to make a choice to forgive yourself for past mistakes and not hold yourself hostage via shitty moments.

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I've actually had a few PM's with the OP. I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt that his past will haunt him when it comes to women if he doesn't close the deal on the same day and will likely lose the girl after the fact. It's bad enough that he has to be so charming and amazing that a woman will refuse to believe the information that's out there.

My suggestion to him is that he goes by his middle name so he actually has a chance because he has serious hurdles. It's not that he can't get over his past. He's been branded.

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I agree. But I think there's more to it than that. I think I could explain it to them and maybe show them that I'm a different person than I was back then.

I had a drug addiction that I cured. I had mental issues that I did my best to take care of.

That one incident is not my whole life story.

But it does totally suck.

I think eventually I'm just going to have to beg someone. Do you agree? This guy "Majikal" telling me to get over my past doesn't know what my past it.

And these are other reasons why I need to become rich so they can see that I've done something with my life after that. I would get turned down by 300 pound ugly girls if they saw that.

I may have just taken myself out of the game. I don't really know what else to do other than "cold approach threesome game," or some other ridiculous shit.

Trust me, these thoughts are in my head 24/7. I ruined my reputation for my whole life. The only life I will ever have is ruined by one thing I did when I was 22 years old.

And I don't even value most of these girls too much anyway. Most of them just work office jobs or walk three feet and give someone a cup. And they are supposed to have higher value than me?

I don't know how, and don't have time, to "take it slow" with a girl. I don't even know how to do that.

When I was in Miami, a very hot stripper who barely spoke English offered me sex for $300. I turned it down because I didn't want to do it in the club. I think that's the level that my game is at, and I'm not sure if it will ever get past that.

I really just don't know what to do. It's about as helpless as being in prison and not being able to get out because there's a steel door in front of you.

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Also, on the topic of being "so charming."

I have bits and pieces where I can be that if the stars are magically aligned.

But at this point, I'm not interested in being a charming gentleman. I have rage. I want to get drunk and cuss girls out for all the hell they've put me through.

I don't want to introduce myself by my middle name because I don't give a fuck what they in the first place.

I would rather shove it down their throats. Whatever that means.

A few nights ago, I got kicked out of a bar for calling girls whores when I was drunk. They told me not to go back there. I've been banned from 4-5 local bars.

All this being said, I looked around tonight.... and I didn't see other guys wooing the pants off these girls. Other guys were just ordering drinks, watching TV.... so I might be better than those guys, at least!!!!

Of course, there are always the guys at the tables with girls already with them.

I can't wait until I can drink again.... I just want to go out and get trashed and see what happens. Take a cab home. I probably won't even talk to anyone.

It really sucks that the past will follow me forever, and even if I do manage to get something out of this life, it will be tainted anyway.

Some wife to beat??? Then call her a prostitute and ask her to suck my deformed dick that I haven't taken the bandages off yet?

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