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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:28 pm 
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Hello ppl. in university i am trying to be as social as possible, but...
I am currently trying to fit in a social group but:
1- IF i ever try to say anything they just speak on top of me and ignore me.
2- Sometimes i try to say something fun and they just sigh at me, as if they are saying in their minds "omg this guy is so retarded"
3- As a result i tend to stay the Quiet, passive intruder in the group...

All of the other groups i previously tried to fit in resulted more or less the same way :\

Since i started to learn about game i improved a lot my 1 on 1 or small groups (like 3 ppl) social skills, really, im not kidding, i am a lot more extroverted now, but when it comes to social groups \ circles, i just dont know what the fuck im doing.
And yes, i am coming from a total introvert\no social life\loser type of background

any books\videos to recomend?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 6:54 pm 
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Don't try to befriend an entire group. Befriend one person that is part of the group. When you're accepted by one, they'll get the rest of the group to accept you.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:56 am 
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Don't try to befriend an entire group. Befriend one person that is part of the group. When you're accepted by one, they'll get the rest of the group to accept you.

pretty much. And it sounds to me like OP, that you sound try hard. People can usually sniff these people out. Dial back befriending the group and do it one by one. You'll be king of the mountain soon enough.

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Don't try to befriend an entire group. Befriend one person that is part of the group. When you're accepted by one, they'll get the rest of the group to accept you.

pretty much. And it sounds to me like OP, that you sound try hard. People can usually sniff these people out. Dial back befriending the group and do it one by one. You'll be king of the mountain soon enough.

thanks guys.
today somethinh really weird happened.
the only person i "trust" in the group, note the "" came to talk to me in private, and told me the rest of the group thinks i am strange\weird, and i tried to ask why , and why do they think im weird\strange, he told me i was talking weird shit, and i speak when everyone is speaking and i never say anything that makes sense.
dude wtf? Im scared... Am i a total failure? :\

I notice something tho: IF everyone is talking random weird shit everyone speaks too, but if i talk about the same weird topic they all look at me as if "Look, the retarded spoke -.-" wtf? what am i missing

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Don't try to befriend an entire group. Befriend one person that is part of the group. When you're accepted by one, they'll get the rest of the group to accept you.

pretty much. And it sounds to me like OP, that you sound try hard. People can usually sniff these people out. Dial back befriending the group and do it one by one. You'll be king of the mountain soon enough.

thanks guys.
today somethinh really weird happened.
the only person i "trust" in the group, note the "" came to talk to me in private, and told me the rest of the group thinks i am strange\weird, and i tried to ask why , and why do they think im weird\strange, he told me i was talking weird shit, and i speak when everyone is speaking and i never say anything that makes sense.
dude wtf? Im scared... Am i a total failure? :\

I notice something tho: IF everyone is talking random weird shit everyone speaks too, but if i talk about the same weird topic they all look at me as if "Look, the retarded spoke -.-" wtf? what am i missing
Are you talking weird shit to just fit in?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 10:36 pm 
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Are you talking weird shit to just fit in?
no bro, i am joining the conversation.
for example, if they are talking about their favorite foods, i talk about my favorite food and their expression changes , as if i am the retarded kid who cant say anything gets instantly labeled?
This might sound like i am playing victim'ish or whatever, but in truth i want to pinpoint any "weirdnesses" that might exist in me, so i can fix them. Thats why i asked this friend of mine to just be honest and say everything without fear of retaliation cuz i am tall and i can look intimidating sometimes.
in one way i kind of agree with my "friend" here in some points, mostly because i never had too much experience socializing at all, i am just rebuilding myself almost from scratch.
But in another way, sometimes i feel that my friend is exagerating somehow...

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Are you talking weird shit to just fit in?
no bro, i am joining the conversation.
for example, if they are talking about their favorite foods, i talk about my favorite food and their expression changes , as if i am the retarded kid who cant say anything gets instantly labeled?
This might sound like i am playing victim'ish or whatever, but in truth i want to pinpoint any "weirdnesses" that might exist in me, so i can fix them. Thats why i asked this friend of mine to just be honest and say everything without fear of retaliation cuz i am tall and i can look intimidating sometimes.
in one way i kind of agree with my "friend" here in some points, mostly because i never had too much experience socializing at all, i am just rebuilding myself almost from scratch.
But in another way, sometimes i feel that my friend is exagerating somehow...
Unfortunately, there is too much that can be going wrong without someone impartial to observe you. However, there are things you can do to tweak your social game. I'd recommend that you read the book How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie. If you do a search on the internet, you can find a cheat sheet that you can read in minutes that covers the entire book.

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It sounds like you try to take over conversations rather than adding to them. Don't be that guy

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How exactly are you hanging out with this group? Like how are you physically around them in the first place?


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How exactly are you hanging out with this group? Like how are you physically around them in the first place?
i walk with them, eat with them, have classes with them...
i am using them as a "lab" so i can improve my social skills in general, of course they dont know it, but thats how i describe it. to be honest they are not really the type of people i would identify myself with in the first place, but thats another reason why i want to hang around with them, so i can be less judgamental (which i tend to be a lot), and learn to adapt to all sorts of people that are not nerd,geek,antisocial, like me

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How exactly are you hanging out with this group? Like how are you physically around them in the first place?
i walk with them, eat with them, have classes with them...
i am using them as a "lab" so i can improve my social skills in general, of course they dont know it, but thats how i describe it. to be honest they are not really the type of people i would identify myself with in the first place, but thats another reason why i want to hang around with them, so i can be less judgamental (which i tend to be a lot), and learn to adapt to all sorts of people that are not nerd,geek,antisocial, like me
So you're stalking a group of people?


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How exactly are you hanging out with this group? Like how are you physically around them in the first place?
i walk with them, eat with them, have classes with them...
i am using them as a "lab" so i can improve my social skills in general, of course they dont know it, but thats how i describe it. to be honest they are not really the type of people i would identify myself with in the first place, but thats another reason why i want to hang around with them, so i can be less judgamental (which i tend to be a lot), and learn to adapt to all sorts of people that are not nerd,geek,antisocial, like me
So you're stalking a group of people?
ok, obvious troll detected. -.-

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ok, obvious troll detected. -.-
I dont know if you're assuming I'm trolling you, or you're realizing you're "trolling" these ppl. Anyways, you cant just go and follow a group around. If they aren't inviting you, stop following them. Thats weird. And ppl are just gonna see you as the guy who is weirdly there. Might sound cliche, but you have to bring value and let people WANT to hang with you, not just show up at lunch when they dont want you there.


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OP, Have you tried band? You seem like you'd fit in with those people.

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i want to hang around with them, so i can be less judgamental (which i tend to be a lot), and learn to adapt to all sorts of people that are not nerd,geek,antisocial, like me
Hmmm...This type of thinking that's going to be a problem. Who wants to hang around with a guy that's not genuine with wanting to befriend people and possibly looks down on them?

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