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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:16 pm 
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Do any of you have trouble speaking and hearing at bars when talking to chicks?

I sometimes have trouble with an opinion opener (I am getting my confidence up talking to chicks in a routine way before I transit into a more natural game), because they either cant hear what I'm saying or I cant hear what they are saying. I feel like I am screaming to them. My voice does not carry very well.


How do I fix this?


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 Post subject: Re: Problem at bars
PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:29 pm 
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Would you try to light a cigarette under water?

You have to learn to adapt to your surroundings. When you're out at bars and clubs you have to learn to use your nonverbals.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:04 am 
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Would you try to light a cigarette under water?

You have to learn to adapt to your surroundings. When you're out at bars and clubs you have to learn to use your nonverbals.
Maybe talk more about non-verbals. What's a non-verbal opener?

I see people communicating non-verbally all of the time at loud clubs, but I'm not catching on to what is and isn't working.


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 Post subject: Re: Problem at bars
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:12 am 
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Would you try to light a cigarette under water?

You have to learn to adapt to your surroundings. When you're out at bars and clubs you have to learn to use your nonverbals.
Maybe talk more about non-verbals. What's a non-verbal opener?

I see people communicating non-verbally all of the time at loud clubs, but I'm not catching on to what is and isn't working.
Nonverbals are basically forcing IOI's and giving direction. A head nod is a nonverbal form of communication and a response is showing potential interest. I stole Dragula's example of clinking glasses and that breaks down walls. It's small things that keep you from yelling to one another that expresses interest in order to move to isolation in a quieter spot or on a dance floor.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:54 am 
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Would you try to light a cigarette under water?

You have to learn to adapt to your surroundings. When you're out at bars and clubs you have to learn to use your nonverbals.
Maybe talk more about non-verbals. What's a non-verbal opener?

I see people communicating non-verbally all of the time at loud clubs, but I'm not catching on to what is and isn't working.

Have you ever watched a sitcom ? For example, Dennis from it's always sunny. I love portraying him when i am at bars because he is as cocky as i am. downright delusional. He's an expressive character.

On another note, nonverbals are deadly giveaways. I have grown up people watching and it's easy to tell when someone is comfortable in their own skin.

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 Post subject: Re: Problem at bars
PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:35 am 
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Do any of you have trouble speaking and hearing at bars when talking to chicks?

I sometimes have trouble with an opinion opener (I am getting my confidence up talking to chicks in a routine way before I transit into a more natural game), because they either cant hear what I'm saying or I cant hear what they are saying. I feel like I am screaming to them. My voice does not carry very well.


How do I fix this?

1) Assuming you've got 1-2 girls you're talking to MAX... after you begin your interaction, try moving them to a quieter part of the bar.

2) Don't start an interaction in the loud part of the bar.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:58 am 
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I agree with nonzero. If your at a bar or a club try using your peacocking to drag her to either a more secluded spot to talk or do the opposite and drag her to the dance floor. I did it once with a bright green boa at a club. This girl was pointing and giggling with her friend at it so I approached and said "don't laugh you know you like it" to which she replied with "yes I do I wanna wear it." I used mystery's line are you a thief and she said of course not. So I put it around her and pulled her to me and grinded on her and on and on it went (sparing the detailes) but I digress. Try getting her really close to you using nonverbals absolutely right nonzero


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 5:50 pm 
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Lean In.

I know its common around PUA that you should never lean in, you should stay played and make women lean into you, but I don't really give things like that much thought. Sometimes I lean it, sometimes they lean in. Either option is much better than not being heard.

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Would you try to light a cigarette under water?

You have to learn to adapt to your surroundings. When you're out at bars and clubs you have to learn to use your nonverbals.
Maybe talk more about non-verbals. What's a non-verbal opener?

I see people communicating non-verbally all of the time at loud clubs, but I'm not catching on to what is and isn't working.

Eye fucking. Using your body language to show interest. Touching her in a sexual way. Things like that.


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