I keep readong about how everyone is like 19 years old and have banged 100 girls.

Im puishing 30 and have banged like 4!

Even though I learnt/read all the game books about 5 years ago, and approach girls every time I go out at night, I just don't seem to get anywhere and it's starting to feel impossible. Like maybe i'm like 50 times more ugly than I see myself in the mirror! I don't understand how one can be so unsuccessful with girls.

Latest field report from the other night:

irst approach was with 2 girls standing by a table at a bar. They both seemed to be majorly into their phones and were giggling.
I just walked over and said ''What are you two up too?! I feel like I'm missing out!''.
They were friendly off the bat (a welcome surprise)
''we're snapchatting!'' - then they showed me some pics of themselves that they'd just taken with the app that gives you dog ears and stuff.
I said ''Do me! group photo!'' then they put their arms around me and took a photo of the 3 of us.
I don't remember exactly how the conversation went, but they asked me what phone I have and we talked phones and apps for a minute or two.
I asked them where they were going that night.
It started to slightly rain (we were outside) and once of them said ''I'm getting wet'' and then they both giggled I said ''You two are naughty. You've got dirty minds!'' They both laughed.
I can't remember what I said next, but I remember her replying to whatever I said with ''I've got a boyfriend, and so has she!''
I ejected soon after that


There was this really pretty girl standing quite near me. Just my type. Gorgeous eyes, and looked really young.
She has a fur coat on.
''Hey! - I like your coat. But if it's real fur, we can't be friends'' (I was sure to smile lots when I said this, as sometimes in my experience, girls can think you're being serious if they don't know you)
She wasn't rude or anything, but didn't look that interested.
She said ''I don't even know if it's real or not''
I asked her where she was going that night and who she was with, but her answers were very short, and I didn't feel as though she gave me anything to 'work with'.
I thought i'd try the old 'make assumptions' thing, and guessed what her job might be based on her look. She just said like 'nope'.
Soon after she just moved away from me about 6 foot so I decided to leave her alone.


There were these 2 girls standing near me and it started to rain a little bit, and I was under the protection of like a giant umbrella thing that was in the beer garden, and they were maybe too shy to get under it as it was busy and they were getting a bit wet.
I said ''Come here, you two! I'll let you under, but you gotta be cool!''
They laughed and said thanks and got under it with me.
I noticed one of them had a plane looking drink, and I said ''what's that?!''
She said ''just water - i'm driving tonight''.
I teased her and said ''You said you were cool! liar. Out you get! (and lightly pushed her as it to get her out of the protection and back out into the rain)
She laughed and kind of hit me.
I tried to guess what she done for a job, and we kind of vibed for a while, but after about 5 minutes they both moved away.
I wasn't actually attracted to either of them so no big deal. Was more for practice.


edit: Just remembered one last mini approach as I was abuot to go get a cab home.
there was this pretty girl walking slowly in front of me. I walked past her and then looked back and smile and said ''Hey! what's up!''
She smiled and said her feet hurt.
I said ''want a piggy back!!?''
she surprised me and said yes, lol. So I said, "go on then, jump on!2
She got on my back and I walked her a minute down the road to the cab rank, lol.
Can't remember what we spoke about. When I put her down, I tried to talk to her, but she managed to get a cab almost straight away and I didn't see her again.
I'm maybe getting less harsh rejections recently, but even after a few hundred approaches now, I'm still not ever really getting anywhere.
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I feel as though I am maybe just not asking the right questions or something? I tend to obviously ask who they are with and where they are going (no point in asking where they are from as I live in a small town and pretty much everyone is from here is born and raised here). Then, if they haven't already walked away, i'll maybe make some assumptions/statements on what they do for a work.
What other sorts of things should i ask/talk about early on?

Early game look solid is all I can say. Commenting mainly to see what other say really.

But if I was going to say anything, Id say youre either running out of things to say and go into interview mode, or youre failing to escalate/isolate. Im not sure where, but I picked up a piece of advice somewhere along the line. Insecure guys will ask heaps of questions of girls because theyre afraid that they arent interesting enough to talk about themselves. Yeah girls love to hear stuff about themselves, but it works just as well talking some cool shit about yourself too.

Stopped reading here. Banged 100? You seriously believe that bullshit? Very few people have had that many sexual partners, excluding sex industry workers.

Median for a guy at age thirty is ~5 to 6 partners, as per the CDC in the US. You are basically as normal as a guy gets, in that respect.

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What is your purpose with these approaches?
I can see two things straight up. You have no direction, and you dribble around sexualizing.
This is what I mean dribbling. Try to be a bit more daring. What you did is still better than not addressing it at all but you're doing it as safe as possible.
My answer would've been "See? and I barely started talking to you". It's ok to be more provocative.

And like I said, you don't have direction. You open, and then you drift into small talk with no endgame in sight.
If you approach in a club/bar at night, you gotta understand you're in a dynamic environment. You need to get sexual, fast. Hand on lower back immediately as you introduce yourself, stand close to her, dance if there's music, but stand close either way. Get intimate quick and start building tension asap. Focus more on the non verbals.

If you're out at day sure, you can talk, ask some questions, and take a number or turn it into a date on the spot. But if you're out at night treating it as if it were day, your approaches fall flat, as you saw.


PS: You'd have to fuck a different girl every week once you hit age 17 to get to 100 by 19.

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These are just kind of pub/bars in the UK. Not clubs where everyone is making out and dancing in some high octane environment.

Lets take teh girls in the fur coat. Surely small talk of some sort is required after the open.

Tell me what I SHOULD be saying after the open so that I know what you mean.

Hey. Yes, i'm not isolating or escelating, but that's because i'm never in set long enough to do that. It would be like saying 'hi, nice to meet you, i'm paul' and then after her saying 'hi' back, me saying ''lets go over there and talk'. Basically way too early since no connection has been built.

I think i'd at least need to be at a point where wer are vibing and maybe they are asking ME questions before I try to isolate her or something.

And you're right in that I am running out of things to say soon after teh open and going into interview mode, but i'm unsure of the alternative. I don't know what i'm supposed to be doing/saying!

I've tried ''making assumptions'' but that isn't getting me any further along, as yuo can see in the examples above

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Do you think what you say is more important, or how you say it?

If you're trying to flirt with a woman in a pub, do you think it's better to do it by being close to or in her personal space, or by being a safe distance away?
Do you think it's better to be cheeky or to be friendly?
Are you trying to seduce women or make friends?

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Apparently it's 'how you say it' (although I have my doubts - when you take examples to an extreme, for example)

Probably close to her initially, and getting in her personal space if she seems into it

Cheeky

seduce

And are you doing all that?

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yes

Then why do you think you're not getting the results you want?

Or rather what is the purpose of your approaches?

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I have some ideas - although first I want to clarify your earlier post about not being physical enough etc. You need to realise that even though this is nightgame, these aren't like high octane clubs. They're just bars/pubs. People are drinking, relaxing, talking to their friends and stuff. Going up to a girl, touching her and being super sexual straight away creeps them out. I've tried that game! It can work in clubs, but not pubs/bars. I think they need to be treated as a bit like day game, but where IF it's going well, you can sexualise strongly and stuff.

You say I open and drift into small talk with no end in sight. But opening and then drifting into small talk is what just about every pickup book and vid says I should be doing! You open. Make some assumptions about them. Ask them some questions etc etc. Maybe try to tease her.
If not small talk, what do you suggest?
And what do you mean by no endgame in sight? You mean be super direct straight away and tell her I want to bang her? I assume you are from the 'direct' as opposed to 'indirect' school of thought...?..

I got an instant makeout in a club last week, so I can see how different approaches can work in different environments, but I'm most gaming in pubs and stuff.

As for where I think it's going wrong? It's naturally hard to tell since there's endless variables, but I think my sub-communications at the open probably aren't great. I'm not a naturally confident person. It could be the same with bodylanguage too, though I try to appear relaxed.

The other issue (at least in my opinion) is my lack of conversational skills in regards to smalltalk. I'm just not good at it. Some people can just talk and talk about seeming anything and be able to hold peoples attention. I need to keep her talking for some amount of time to build some comfort before I can dig deeper about her life, but I tend to lose their attention too early for that.

The purpose of my approaches is to build attraction and then either get a number or a lay. Like most people, i guess.