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PostPosted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:12 am 
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I'm trying to get this girl from match dot com..she looks pretty hot..not the hottest and had a pretty down-to-earth profile.

I told the hot target to tell me 3 things besides her looks that would make me want to know her better via an online personal as STYLE (Neil Strauss) has suggested.

She has replied back with this:

"Better yet why don't you give me three reasons why I should take the time to tell you about myself.

Morgan"


I have no idea what to do when they throw this back in my face. Any suggestions or experience in this area would be greatly appreciated, fellow PUA.

I posted this also at: building attraction & comfort sub-forum (please look there)
Some forum guys have suggested some things but I guess you'd be the ONLINE GURU...I would appreciate any help. =)
Wow, that's a tough one. Man we really walked right into this one. Okay we tried to take the 10 frame and seize control of the frame and conversation. She fired back in our face with her frame. If we respond with something smartass we'll get the bitch shield and the delete button. If we come across qualifying to her we lose. So what do we do? We back up and punt. :) We have to find a way for both you and her to save face.

I personally would say something back like, "I'll give you one good reason, you're a lot like me. :) I don't like jumping through people's hoops either. I'm pretty high maintenance and it looks like your the same way too. Let's start this over, I'm AsianCowboy."

This way we're building comfort by finding a common ground. No one looses face, and you're the bigger person. I greatly hope it helps.

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I'm trying to get this girl from match dot com..she looks pretty hot..not the hottest and had a pretty down-to-earth profile.

I told the hot target to tell me 3 things besides her looks that would make me want to know her better via an online personal as STYLE (Neil Strauss) has suggested.

She has replied back with this:

"Better yet why don't you give me three reasons why I should take the time to tell you about myself.

Morgan"


I have no idea what to do when they throw this back in my face. Any suggestions or experience in this area would be greatly appreciated, fellow PUA.

I posted this also at: building attraction & comfort sub-forum (please look there)
Some forum guys have suggested some things but I guess you'd be the ONLINE GURU...I would appreciate any help. =)
Wow, that's a tough one. Man we really walked right into this one. Okay we tried to take the 10 frame and seize control of the frame and conversation. She fired back in our face with her frame. If we respond with something smartass we'll get the bitch shield and the delete button. If we come across qualifying to her we lose. So what do we do? We back up and punt. :) We have to find a way for both you and her to save face.

I personally would say something back like, "I'll give you one good reason, you're a lot like me. :) I don't like jumping through people's hoops either. I'm pretty high maintenance and it looks like your the same way too. Let's start this over, I'm AsianCowboy."

This way we're building comfort by finding a common ground. No one looses face, and you're the bigger person. I greatly hope it helps.
Man!!! You really are smooth..hahah whether this works or not....I wish I thought of that...then again..I'm just asian cowboy and you are J freakin SMOOOOTH lol

Thanks for your help bro...


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J Smooth, is happy to help. 8)

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J Smooth, is happy to help. 8)
Jsmooth, she replied back! with...:

"Lol! Guess you liked my response! I'm a no nonsense kind of girl and I'm very straightforward. It is nice to meet you Huey. I'm Morgan. So how do you think we are alike?"


WTF lol I thought we already told her why we're alike...the high-maintenance thing. What should we say now? Bust her chops for asking that? lol


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here's what i'm thinking about sending back to miss Morgan:

"Beauty is quite common and this is why I wanted reasons to justify talking to you. In any event, you answered your own question by saying you are a no nonsense kind of gal. Why do you think I originally told you to give me reasons to know you better--that would make me a "no nonsense" kind of a guy. =)"

If it sucks and you got a better approach, I'm all for it. :)


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Okay, I'm not one for asking about specific situations, but I figure one more question might help to hone your advice-giving skills a bit more. :wink:

Anywho, one of my friends had a birthday party the other night, and one of the pictures that I'm tagged in is me jokingly reaching for an HB 8-ish's ass. She knows it was a playful joke, and she commented on the pic saying "he wanted that ass!"

I can definitely see myself closing with her, and I was wanted to get an idea of what you would say to her to be playful and C&F.



Thanks a lot,
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Jsmooth, she replied back! with...:

"Lol! Guess you liked my response! I'm a no nonsense kind of girl and I'm very straightforward. It is nice to meet you Huey. I'm Morgan. So how do you think we are alike?"


WTF lol I thought we already told her why we're alike...the high-maintenance thing. What should we say now? Bust her chops for asking that? lol
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here's what i'm thinking about sending back to miss Morgan:

"Beauty is quite common and this is why I wanted reasons to justify talking to you. In any event, you answered your own question by saying you are a no nonsense kind of gal. Why do you think I originally told you to give me reasons to know you better--that would make me a "no nonsense" kind of a guy. =)"

If it sucks and you got a better approach, I'm all for it. :)
Sounds like you got it under control now man. That looks like a good response to me.

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Okay, I'm not one for asking about specific situations, but I figure one more question might help to hone your advice-giving skills a bit more. :wink:

Anywho, one of my friends had a birthday party the other night, and one of the pictures that I'm tagged in is me jokingly reaching for an HB 8-ish's ass. She knows it was a playful joke, and she commented on the pic saying "he wanted that ass!"

I can definitely see myself closing with her, and I was wanted to get an idea of what you would say to her to be playful and C&F.

Thanks a lot,
Quixy
Quixy,

This thread is pretty specific to attracting women online. Since you're in person your beyond most of the guidelines of this thread. However, I do want to help you. I need some more information about this HB though. How long have you know her, what has already been said or done, what stage are you at with her, how does she view you "Friend" etc., and lastly how old are you.

I can give you lots of Cocky Funny comments but one they won't mean much without the details. Secondly if you are not naturally cocky funny it won't be congruent with who you are and she'll pick up on that. Hence, why I don't write scripts for guys.

Since you asked, "I want you to know, that'll be the last time I reach for your ass! :)"

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Well Jsmooth, I have known her for probably like 2 weeks without much talking, but I'm starting to hang out with her more because I'm getting to be good friends with her roommate. I'm usually a good negger, so I've given her a few light negs. I can be pretty Cocky Funny at times, but those skills aren't too great yet. She sees me as her friend right now, but I'm definitely nowhere near LJBFed. I see her out a lot and I'm confident that I can close her with your help (even though it's not online... sorry).

Oh, and I'm 18 and she's 19 almost 20. I just started getting back into the PUA life, but I'm nothing special at all yet because I'm not good at creatively using Cocky Funny and negs.

Thanks for the line though! I love it and I think I'll use a variation of it. She'll prolly respond with either a "why is that" or a smartass comment playing hard-to-get. How would you handle those?
Keep in mind I'm not going to use your stuff word for word. I'll put it in my own context. I'm just trying to get a basic gist of how I should go about the situation.

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Well Jsmooth, I have known her for probably like 2 weeks without much talking, but I'm starting to hang out with her more because I'm getting to be good friends with her roommate. I'm usually a good negger, so I've given her a few light negs. I can be pretty Cocky Funny at times, but those skills aren't too great yet. She sees me as her friend right now, but I'm definitely nowhere near LJBFed. I see her out a lot and I'm confident that I can close her with your help (even though it's not online... sorry).

Oh, and I'm 18 and she's 19 almost 20. I just started getting back into the PUA life, but I'm nothing special at all yet because I'm not good at creatively using Cocky Funny and negs.

Thanks for the line though! I love it and I think I'll use a variation of it. She'll prolly respond with either a "why is that" or a smartass comment playing hard-to-get. How would you handle those?
Keep in mind I'm not going to use your stuff word for word. I'll put it in my own context. I'm just trying to get a basic gist of how I should go about the situation.
Handle those comments any way you want you have the 10 frame not her. Hell ignore the statements and questions if you want to. You go after her much like you would anyone. Since you have negged her you need to start telling DHV stories around her to boost yourself. From there you move on to A3 and have her tell you her DHV stories so you can comment on them, and be playful.

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To jump to a completely different topic just find a transition phrase. The human mind naturally makes leaps that don't make sense. You can be driving down the road and you'll see a sign for a burger place and think "yumm." Then a second later you're reminded of that thing you have to do tomorrow. Weird right? It's typical for our minds to make jumps, so what we do in the field is just transition. I like saying, "Oh that reminds me of..." You could also say, "I just remembered..." These transitions will allow you to chance topic without appearing unusual.
Sorry with this question again, but would "Enough with this (topic that was being discussed).. (new topic)" work?


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To jump to a completely different topic just find a transition phrase. The human mind naturally makes leaps that don't make sense. You can be driving down the road and you'll see a sign for a burger place and think "yumm." Then a second later you're reminded of that thing you have to do tomorrow. Weird right? It's typical for our minds to make jumps, so what we do in the field is just transition. I like saying, "Oh that reminds me of..." You could also say, "I just remembered..." These transitions will allow you to chance topic without appearing unusual.
Sorry with this question again, but would "Enough with this (topic that was being discussed).. (new topic)" work?
Come to think of it I've said exactly that before in set. :D It works, just say something to transition yourself from one though to the other. You're in the right frame of mind. Keep me posted on how you do.

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Hey J,
I am very new to the game so I don't have a lot of experience. There is this girl that I wanna go for, I knew her from middle school but now she goes to my high school. I mainly talk to her on facebook messaging, first what would be an okay way to get her to instant message me?
Second, she has a boyfriend, they have been going out for about a month, but we are both going to China together in a week and her bf wont be there.
How do I get her? First online and then while traveling?
I am new so any actual quotes to say will be greatly appreciated.
BTW, I am a magician, what kind of tricks could I show her?


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Hey J,
I am very new to the game so I don't have a lot of experience. There is this girl that I wanna go for, I knew her from middle school but now she goes to my high school. I mainly talk to her on facebook messaging, first what would be an okay way to get her to instant message me?
Second, she has a boyfriend, they have been going out for about a month, but we are both going to China together in a week and her bf wont be there.
How do I get her? First online and then while traveling?
I am new so any actual quotes to say will be greatly appreciated.
BTW, I am a magician, what kind of tricks could I show her?
Welcome to the forum! This is complex because you are new to the game, and I'm not sure about your past experiences with her. Basically, I'm not sure if you've already been handed the "let's just be friends" card over the past few years.

So to answer your first question "What would be an okay way to get her to instant message me?" Simple, ask her for her messenger address. If you've been talking for a while on facebook messaging this shouldn't be a problem, as she's probably already comfortable enough to give you her messenger information. After you gain more trust in your target and build rapport through instant messenger, you can ask for her #.

Through messenger you are going to have to start building attraction with your target. Okay so she has a boyfriend, that can change overnight. You two are going to China so you have the opportunity to make it happen.

"How do you get her? First online and then while traveling?" Recommend you read the Venusian Arts Handbook if you haven't already. I can teach you game and give you lines but everyone's game is unique. My game although it has bits of Mystery Method, and David DeAngelo in it, my game is not the same from other members of this forum that have read the same material.

What I'm getting at is if I give you a bunch of lines to use, it's not going to be congruent with who you are. There is a chance the lines would work, but if you're going to be in China more than a day you're probably going to run out of my material, and you'll need your own.

"What kind of tricks to show her?" That's awesome that you're a magician and can do some fun tricks. Since I don't know magic personally I'm not sure what to tell you. Although, you may want to send "Eekangorf" a PM since that guy is a card trick master. :)

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Hey dude, i though i would ask for some tips as im a complete newbie and you seem to have some experiance. well my past actions with this girl have been quite afc'ish but not overly bad i havn't been needy or anything.

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but i want to try and do this properly from this point on, how can i continue? i havn't txt her back or phoned her yet.

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