that's just one criteria (by the way, criteria is a plural word, the singular is criterion, but i dont care, i like using criteria as singular)

I have stopped saying "i like this kind of girl, i dont like that kind of girl" because i find that it never works. sometimes i like a girl who is nerdy, sometimes i dont. sometimes i like a girl who is a chef, sometimes i dont. it's about clicking, sometimes i click with someone, sometimes i dont.

i dont get you, what's your motivation for being here, what are you trying to accomplish? this is just a forum where a bunch of guys are trying to figure out how to pick up girls and how to improve their lives in general. i am not judging, i am honestly wondering why a girl would not find this forum a waste of time.

Aren't most forums a waste of time?
I like the company of men.

Because I hate drama.

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Oh please. Drama queen here.

Only if you disregard the value of your time. Other than this forum, I go on a physics forum, an engineering forum, and a forum for some ethical/philosophical issues that I care deeply about. These add value to my life.

OP, would you consider Steve Jobs an intelligent man?

Yes, and no. He was intelligent in the sense that he achieved success far and beyond without taking the traditional route.

But I think the real smarts goes out to the engineers, developers, technicians, the real brain power.

How is this related to pickup ?

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Because I'm not attracted to idiots.

Haha bart. When have you ever clicked with a chick? Are you improving your life? Because all is see is guys wasting their time on a guy who is either a troll, or someone with serious development problems. Why are you here when nothing has changed for you? Like, I could fuck a chick tomorrow, get her pregnant, wait 9 months, have a son, and in 10 years, that kid will be better at life and with women than you are now, or will be in 10 years. I'm just saying man, why are YOU wasting your time and so many other posters' time when you do nothing and have 0 to show for all these threads. I mean, you couldnt even do as Drag said and get a pro. How easy is that? YOU'RE not here to improve your life.

Now, you're just being a meanie to Bartm. I don't get men but you guys lift each other up by beating each other down. Chill.

Some people move at different speeds. Bart is slow, but so what. He's getting a car soon, he's trying, maybe not perfect but he thinks this will get him girls, so why not, that's a step forward instead of not doing anything. Something is better than nothing.

He's getting a car soon? More bs. The guy is doing nothing, and should seek professional help if he's not a troll. Do you say something is better than nothing when someone serves you spaghetti and water? No. Shit effort is shit effort. The guy has been here for 5 years. How many more years do you want him to waste?

The spaghetti and water guy claimed he slept with 20 women and dated extensively (probably lies). Bart dated 0 women, and had 0 sex. That's the difference.

You're an educated girl. This thread is on INTELLIGENCE. See how what I wrote has nothing to do with how many girls the spaghetti guy dated or fucked? Read it again, and see the point. Actually I'll explain it.
Same way you wont say something is better than nothing when someone does shit (serving you water and spag), why say that barts shit effort is better than nothing? A simple point.

Right.
But we assume that a guy that's slept with 20 women aka experience under his belt has learned over time what works and doesn't. So, if he put out shit effort on Woman #1 because he was completely clueless, but improved his game with woman #5, he improved.

Bart had 0 women. With the way things are going, spaghetti and water is better than nothing.

But of course, I don't think most people are walking around going, spaghetti and water for a date is a great idea.

Both guys are socially clueless.

I haven't been on here for 5 years to follow bart's threads. By the way.

Lol. HT, this is a side point, but relevant to your thread. I made a simple point. It has nothing to do with the specific guy who gave you water and spagheti. It has nothing to do with how many women he slept with or how many vs bart. I literally had to read your post 6 times to confirm you are just talking around the point.

Now, I'm gonna say this for the other guys, cause I'm sure they feel the same way. We want women we dont have to go around simple points with. Its not intelligent to be able to connect something with a variety of unrelated things to confuse the message.

Do you say something is better than nothing when someone serves you spaghetti and water?

The answer is no.

Simple.

Doesnt matter how many girls he slept with. When you're walking home from the meal, you dont say well it was better than nothing, and you dont say well hes been with 20 girls so its better than nothing. You just say that was bs.

Intelligence is fine by me, but more importantly the ability to connect simple things and get to the heart of a discussion.