Jack, you got me wrong. I never said I do not appreciate non-monetary things. I provided an example a while back of a guy that did close to 0 for me while I jumped the hoops for him.

But like with the example you provided with Arch Stanton, some guys on here are a little to critical of me while okay-ing the actions of others. And no, I'm not going to criticize Arch. That's his preference.

I never said cash is the sole proof that he cares. I specifically said, time, effort and money as proof.

Why is cash in there to begin with ? There's a difference between a woman wanting to be with a man because he has a lifestyle she wants to be apart of and a woman who expects to be entitled to the lifestyle.



Women are capitalists in the workplace and socialist in their dating lives.

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I never said that you can't be this way. There's always going to be a guy, or girl, that will cause someone to act out of what they would consider the person that they are or want to be. I see some guys on here that act like they are the hardest man in the world, but either they are lying or they haven't met that girl that has taken him on that ride. I've been taken out of my normal character twice in the past few years and I have no regrets about it.You are the antelope that walked into the Lion's den and asked if you could hang out. You are going to be treated more critically than the guys here (with some exceptions). I specifically used three examples of guys who proved that they cared by only using time and effort. Those two things alone shows that he cares. If he doesn't spend money on you, it doesn't mean that he doesn't care. Even if they don't put time and effort in, that doesn't mean that a guy doesn't care. That's why I agreed with you like what you like and you prefer what you prefer...that's a valid reason to disqualify any man (or woman). The thing is that's what you want, but to say that he doesn't care isn't necessarily true. Don't vilify the man because he doesn't fit your requirements.

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Wait, so if he cares despite not doing things to show he cares, then it's what, about the degrees of caring? Because not changing your sheets, your apartment a mess, not showering, that's not caring but sticking your dick in a wet hole, that's enough effort to show he cares.

Please give me an example of a real life example where you cared, but didn't show her you cared?

I prefer what I prefer. I won't change myself drastically nor my preferences.
You prefer what you prefer. You won't change either.
End of story.

You're not getting what I'm saying. A man can be lazy and care at the same time. We can also fuck a girl and not care about her in the least bit. I'm saying that you're telling us that you have your requirements and if he wants to be with you:

1. Time
2. Effort
3. Money

To you, if they don't do these things, they are disqualifiers. You're interpreting that as if they don't care when the truth is that they are just not treating you the way that you want to be treated. If they are not treating you the way you want to be treated, you should disqualify them. It's not proof that they don't care, it's just the two of you aren't a match.

I gave three real life examples of that demonstrate that they care and according to your description they couldn't care because money was not involved. I can't give you any real life experiences of where I cared and didn't show it. I can say that I've dated women and my way that I've shown that I cared about them went unnoticed. It went unnoticed because they couldn't appreciate what I had shown them, but it didn't mean that I didn't care about them.

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Okay. I see what you are saying.

But I didn't disagree about the non-monetary examples you provided. Those are signs of time and effort, and ultimately, caring.