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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2016 7:26 pm 
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You complain about not having permanent improvements yet you refuse to implement long-term solutions that would give you said permanent improvements.

The solution to most of our problems is to do the things we most do not want to do. Successful men make a daily habit of doing stuff that scares them.

Hit the fucking gym
I dare you to respond to this with another retarded-ass excuse. Just try me bruh
Chief,

thanks for trying to motivate me to go to the gym. I got a red, itchy thing on both my hands, I think I caught a fungal infection from the gym. I stopped going for the past 7 days but I went again today due to your motivation. but it's not working man, I am not sure how this is supposed to change me. I dont feel any change.

you're right about doing things that scare us. after I did the weird dance that night, I was so proud of myself because I did something uncomfortable. I felt like I have more balls than any other guy in this world and if a girl doesn't like me, that's her loss.
where is the line between doing something scary and something traumatizing? sometimes I try to do something scary but it ends up being traumatizing. (I think the problem is I don't take baby steps, I try to get over my fear of cats by exposing myself to a lion)


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a while ago n2thevoid said something like "you need to fall in love with yourself. do whatever the fuck you want. go on the street and take off your shirt. chase a chicken down the lane"

I just can't carry on :lol:

I stopped reading after this one first paragraph. I don't even need to read the rest. These few lines are all I need tonight. Thank you Bartm for another legendary post.


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where is the line between doing something scary and something traumatizing? sometimes I try to do something scary but it ends up being traumatizing. (I think the problem is I don't take baby steps, I try to get over my fear of cats by exposing myself to a lion)

LMAOOOOO.


But if you're honestly this bad bro...seek psychological help. Not even kidding. Like seriously... :|

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You complain about not having permanent improvements yet you refuse to implement long-term solutions that would give you said permanent improvements.

The solution to most of our problems is to do the things we most do not want to do. Successful men make a daily habit of doing stuff that scares them.

Hit the fucking gym
I dare you to respond to this with another retarded-ass excuse. Just try me bruh
Chief,

thanks for trying to motivate me to go to the gym. I got a red, itchy thing on both my hands, I think I caught a fungal infection from the gym. I stopped going for the past 7 days but I went again today due to your motivation. but it's not working man, I am not sure how this is supposed to change me. I dont feel any change.

you're right about doing things that scare us. after I did the weird dance that night, I was so proud of myself because I did something uncomfortable. I felt like I have more balls than any other guy in this world and if a girl doesn't like me, that's her loss.
where is the line between doing something scary and something traumatizing? sometimes I try to do something scary but it ends up being traumatizing. (I think the problem is I don't take baby steps, I try to get over my fear of cats by exposing myself to a lion)
Graded exposure.

In other words, slowing things down and taking graded, 'baby' steps.


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but it's not working man, I am not sure how this is supposed to change me. I dont feel any change.
See my previous responses to you saying the same fucking bullshit in your other threads.

Also, depending on what split you're following, you need to be going 3-6 times a week. Don't miss a single day. Don't rely on such a fickle thing like "motivation." Don't rely on seeing results to motivate you, either. Obsess over developing the healthy habit and just have faith in your LONG TERM results, not the fucking short term bullshit you keep obsessing over. Stop making us repeat ourselves.

Take like 1 shirtless gym mirror selfie every month at most to see results ONLY if you stuck with your 3-6-times-a-week gymgoing for that month.

What split are you following? What's your routine? How many sets and reps of each exercise on which days?

And this should go without saying, but you need to shower and wash your hands and everything after you work out each time.
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where is the line between doing something scary and something traumatizing? sometimes I try to do something scary but it ends up being traumatizing. (I think the problem is I don't take baby steps, I try to get over my fear of cats by exposing myself to a lion)
You can't traumatize yourself. SBAP. But I defer to n2thevoid's advice on this one.


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^^

Re-traumitizing one's self would be him exposing himself too abruptly to something that was an extreme trigger for him.

For example you'll see this in people who have endured relationship related trauma. The person may take what appear to be dramatic steps to avoid places or areas where the ex may be because he/she has become the trauma object.

Or, some of my clients who have experienced trauma from vehicle related trauma may feel re-traumatized each and every time they pass an intersection even as a passenger in a car. The amygdala is switched to the 'On' position and stays that way where the person is hyper vigilant even to things that were innocuous before. Rather than getting used to riding in a car they simply stay in this state of panic (the action may be fight, flight, or freeze). They've simply moved too fast, and need to take several steps back and simply sit in the car in the driveway, or even stand outside and look at it for a few minutes to build a sense of security again and wait for their ANS to cool down and then take the next step, hence the term Graded Exposure.


In Bart's case I get the sense he's trying to jump from A to C without the B, and in some situations that may not have much if any consequences, but if the C is representing a huge trigger for him then he risks re-traumatizing himself.


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What split are you following? What's your routine? How many sets and reps of each exercise on which days?

And this should go without saying, but you need to shower and wash your hands and everything after you work out each time.

Chief,

this is gonna make you mad but I dont know what you mean by split and routine. I dont follow anything, I do whatever I feel like at the moment. I do abdomen, biceps, triceps, chest, shoulders. if I feel like it, sometimes I also run to the gym to warm up.

I only work with machines because they are so self-explanatory, you just sit there and push whatever it is you're supposed to push. I dont work with free weights because I dont know what the hell I am doing. I dont know what "set" and "rep" mean. when people at the gym ask me "how many sets do you have left?" I just say "5" because I dont know what they are talking about.

oh no, I have to shower every time? this is gonna make you mad again, but that's a lot of work. I usually use purell after my workout at the gym and wash my hands several times when I get home, but never a full shower.


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BART:

You need to start SIMPLE.

For upper body, I recommend TWO exercises. They are amazing for beginners and everyone else.

You ready?

PUSH-UPS & PULL-UPS.

You can do push-ups at home. Youtube push-ups for beginners.
Pull-ups you can try with the rubber band and machine.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 2:41 am 
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BART:

You need to start SIMPLE.

For upper body, I recommend TWO exercises. They are amazing for beginners and everyone else.

You ready?

PUSH-UPS & PULL-UPS.

You can do push-ups at home. Youtube push-ups for beginners.
Pull-ups you can try with the rubber band and machine.
before joining the gym i asked nr32 "cant i just do push ups and pull ups at home?" he said no.


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BART:

You need to start SIMPLE.

For upper body, I recommend TWO exercises. They are amazing for beginners and everyone else.

You ready?

PUSH-UPS & PULL-UPS.

You can do push-ups at home. Youtube push-ups for beginners.
Pull-ups you can try with the rubber band and machine.
you mean i dont have to pay for gym any more? works for me.
Lmaoooooo. You still have to workout knuckle head. Unless you magically break your arm....which is I predict your next post will be to not do something

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Bart,

Most men are ashamed to do push-ups on their knees. That's how you learn, and build. Same with the rubber band pull-ups. Join a gym to watch and learn from other people.

I don't know what else to tell you.


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Bart,

Most men are ashamed to do push-ups on their knees. That's how you learn, and build. Same with the rubber band pull-ups. Join a gym to watch and learn from other people.

I don't know what else to tell you.
Only a guy talks like this. Where's a CLEAR pic of you again.. with your forum name and date, hand written, on a piece of paper? :)

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2016 5:18 am 
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Autoregressive, if possible, can you post a link to the survey?
Sure, I've posted and reposted this thing more times than I can count. It's the best I've seen survey wise regarding men's traits that women find attractive. Probably the best thing Men's Health ever published, too. What you get out of it is the RELATIVE importance of these traits. Basically 1000 women were given 5 traits in 4 categories (20 total) to "rank." The % value represents how many women placed the trait into her top 10.

http://www.menshealth.com/sex-women/top ... -she-wants

When I looked at this in detail I also ranked the traits into "levels" "Introductory" (something she can know right away)... "Secondary" (will find out after getting to know you for a while) and "Tertiary" (something she'll find out after getting to know you well/intimately). Here's the list in a few formats:

By Rank with "Levels"
Faithfulness 84% Secondary
Sense of Humor 77% Intro
Dependability 75% Secondary
Kindness 67% Secondary
Moral Integrity 66% Secondary
Intelligence 55% Secondary
Listening 53% Secondary
Fatherliness 51% Tertiary
Romancing 48% Secondary
Passion 46% Secondary
Confidence 41% Intro
Generosity 38% Secondary
Being Good in Bed 35% Tertiary
Sense of Style 30% Intro
Handsome Face 26% Intro
Cooking, Cleaning, etc. 23% Tertiary
Earning Potential 21% Secondary
Height 15% Intro
Muscular Build 13% Intro
Fitness 12% Intro


By Caterogy
Character
Faithfulness 84%
Dependability 75%
Kindness 67%
Moral Integrity 66%
Fatherliness 51%

Practical Skills
Listening 53%
Romancing 48%
Being Good in Bed 35%
Cooking, Cleaning, etc. 23%
Earning Potential 21%

Personality
Sense of Humor 77%
Intelligence 55%
Passion 46%
Confidence 41%
Generosity 38%

Physical
Sense of Style 30%
Handsome Face 26%
Height 15%
Muscular Build 13%
Fitness 12%

Note how many women found faithfulness attractive. That's not chance. Utterly hilarious if you read that "dread" thread that was posted recently.

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I'm not mad. I'm pleasantly surprised you've actually started going to the gym. You've actually exceeded my expectations.
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when people at the gym ask me "how many sets do you have left?" I just say "5" because I dont know what they are talking about.
LOL I can only imagine the look on their faces :shock:

Some people do 5 sets of an exercise at most. What you're saying when you have 5 sets left is that you've just started using that machine, pretty much. Pretty funny situation if the person who asked you that question saw you using the machine for like 10 minutes already.

As far as just doing push-ups and pull-ups go, before joining a gym to work with heavy weights I actually spent a month or two conditioning myself at home with bodyweight exercises. Every other day I would do what's called a "pyramid" of 100 push-ups/shoulder presses:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N40RLkDnG0o[/youtube]

The difference between what I did and what's shown in that video was that I used 12 lb dumbells instead of using no weight for the shoulder press part. I also use The Perfect Pushup instead of just doing pushups on the floor. Doing this with the light weights and the Perfect Pushup equipment made it harder, so to this day I still wouldn't be able to do it as fast as Scott is doing in the above video, but that's fine. I also did it just once the day I did it instead of 3 times spread out throughout the day like he recommended.

I still do this at home as a substitute for days I cannot go to the gym when it's the day I planned to work out chest and shoulders. For days I cannot go to the gym when I planned to work out back, I just do a bunch of pull-ups at home. These are only alternative substitutes but they are not as good as actually going to the gym and working with weights.

So, though it's too late for me to say this, you don't absolutely NEED to go to the gym if you're in the beginning conditioning phases, as long as you've done your research and know EXACTLY what to do in regards to bodyweight exercises, and if you already have a well-informed timeline of when you'd be ready to start going heavier with free weights at the gym afterward. That being said, hitting the gym straight from the get-go is never a bad idea.

You need to know what sets, reps, and splits are:

A very common thing someone will do is 3 sets of 10 reps (repetitions) of an exercise. Let's take the bench press as an example. This means you will get down on the bench, lift up the bar with an appropriate amount of weight on it, and push it up 10 times. That means you did one set of 10 reps. Then you take a break for about 1 minute. Then you repeat this same process 2 more times. You have just done 3 sets of 10 reps. You are now done with the bench press exercise and you're ready to move onto the next exercise after taking another short break. Don't spend more than an hour lifting at the gym.

How much weight should you be lifting? Well, if you're doing that standard 3x10 thing I've just outlined, the amount of weight you put on that bar should be whatever weight you can only lift 10 times (reps) with PERFECT form before your muscles give up and you can't lift any more.

A "split" is just your plan of which muscle groups you exercise on which days. I do what they call a "3-day split" and this is what it looks like:
Day 1: Push (bench press, overhead press, cable fly, and other pushing motions)
Day 2: Legs (squat, deadlift, calf raises, Pokemon Go...ok mostly it's just Pokemon Go and I skip le...nvm. Forget I said anything.)
Day 3: Pull (pull-ups, chin-ups, rows, and other pulling motions)
Day 4: Rest.
...then repeat. I also do abs every day (normally just hanging leg raises) except on the Rest day.

Most people do what's called a "5-day split" aka your standard "bro split." Look that up if you don't want something as intense as a 3-day split. But I think a 3-day split gets faster results in terms of muscle growth.

When it comes to cardio...fuck it, who needs cardio :P LOL

Also, you'll want to learn how to do all the basic free weight exercises instead of using machines. Youtube is a goldmine. Using machines too much can lead to underdevelopment of your stabilization muscles, which can make you more prone to injury in your day-to-day movements. You should really only be using machines to specifically target a certain muscle to make it bigger for competitive bodybuilding purposes or something. I dunno.

"How many sets do you have left?" People will ask you this because you're supposed to have a plan for which exercises you're doing that day, and the thing you're using is probably one of the only exercises they have left for that day. You will also want to ask this to someone if they are using a machine or station you need to use in order to reserve your spot as the person who will use it after the current person is done. Now that you know what sets and reps are, you'll know how to respond to this question correctly.

If you want to totally prevent infections and such, you'll do well to shower after working out at the gym. They can be very unsanitary places, especially if it's January and you've got an influx of ignorant New Years Resolutioners leaving their ass sweat everywhere without wiping that shit down afterward. You already caught something, after all... learn your lesson...

Above all, remember that every time you go to the gym, you're investing in yourself. You're taking care of yourself. You're loving yourself. You're building a better bartm and you're killing off the old bartm piece by piece.

Do you have a goal physique?


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Bart,

Most men are ashamed to do push-ups on their knees. That's how you learn, and build. Same with the rubber band pull-ups. Join a gym to watch and learn from other people.

I don't know what else to tell you.
Only a guy talks like this. Where's a CLEAR pic of you again.. with your forum name and date, hand written, on a piece of paper? :)
You obviously haven't met women that lift ;) I've been in and out of the gym for the past 4 years. I might not be a pro bodybuilder, but I know the lingo and the moves ;)


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