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But what are you afraid of for him? He's 19. Probably doesnt have a good enough income to be screwed over. If he works, and she works too, they get divorced in a 5 years, probably not gonna get taken. If she doesnt work and he does, they divorce in 5 years, I'm sure she would have supported him throughout that time. Even then the court will typically give her minimal spousal support for a period of time until she finishes school or something. The guys are who are getting screwed are the guys who have been in long marriages where the wife supported him or can prove she gave up work for the benefit of the family.
Like you, you may work and meet a chick who works, get married and just live a normal life no kids. But its not like that in most cases. Husband and wives come together, decide well he makes more money so he'll provide while she takes a less demanding job to take care of the kids. If they divorce, the court attempts to compensate her for her lost career time. If you and your wife work, and have kids, court is gonna try split assets, which since you both worked should come out fairly.
What scenario are you envisioning where a woman takes half of your money and does not deserve it?
You're assuming my cousin will always be poor. If he starts making money at some point and he has no prenup, he will be at risk just like those who are already making money and getting married with no prenup.
And you are banking on the women never changing. 5 years? A woman can change in 5 years. Having a long-lasting great marriage based on picking a “great woman” assumes that women don’t ever change. It assumes that five or ten years from now she won’t start acting like almost every other woman in western society starts acting once married. The woman you marry today is not the same woman you will be married to years down the road
I don't believe in marriage anyway, if told my woman that she had to pay me 400 dollars a month for the next five years and if you don't you will go to prison, she will never agree to that. So why should men ? The reason I started this thread is to see the mentality of those who still believe in marriage. I want to see if they will at least sign a prenup if they go down that route. Saying I am different than all those other guys. I can make it work is an emotional response than a logical response. It's a hope. You can control your actions, you can't control the actions of your spouse.
And once again, 70% of the divorces are initiated by the women. Rarely are divorces mutual. And check out the infidelity rates while youre at it. There are guys out there who are raising another man's child who was a product of infidelity and they don't even know it. Once they get divorced, they are going to pay child support for that
https://www.myfloridalaw.com/child-supp ... he-father/
For example this is an excerpt from this website
The state of Florida does not care if you are the real father or not. The courts do not care if you are the real father or not. No one in the legal community cares either. The law is quite clear on who gets the priority and who receives the benefit of doubt in these types of situations. That person is the child. The only thing current laws care about is that children receive proper financial support. All the emotion and fairness of the situation is completely stripped out in favor of that one concept. And it is entirely possible that child support will continue on for many years even if there is a universal understanding you are not the real rather.
Men are not destined to win in this legal system.
You're describing one side like everything happens in a vacuum. What I mean is, your cousin is 19, lets say at 25 he's making really good money married, and has been married since 19. You say what if he gets money. Ok. Well what's the other side. If she advanced her career and made money as well, divorce will be ok. If she didn't advance herself, or lets say she was a teacher making a little, if she shows she contributed to his success she'll get some. Now, people do change, thats why you should know who you're getting into a marriage with. Now say your cousin gets money, decides he wants some hotter 19 year old so he starts banging the nearby waitress, gets caught = divorce. Can I say that woman doesnt deserve his money? The women who typically go all out for the money in a divorce, its usually because of some asshole behavior on part of the man. Now, if you marry a "good" chick, she decides she doesnt love you anymore after 5 years, shes most likely gonna just let you walk away. If you marry a chick who wants to rape you in a divorce for no reason, then she probably was materialistic way before the marriage. Ive read and seen all those stats youve posted, but in real world, I see more women walking away and just wanting a clean break than looking to "come up" on a divorce. And too, Ive seen the stories of the women who look to rape you in a divorce. 9 times out 10, dude was bordeline if not full abusive, or cheated and its a revenge thing. Yes there are many fucked up cases, but there are also cases of people suing over hot coffee and shit. In most cases, the court is going to weigh what was contributed on both sides. A chick going to defcon 5 to take your money when before she was just non materialistic, is a stretch. It rarely plays out like that. Im just trying to be fair. A chick isnt automatically entitled to half your money, nor is she automatically going to press it. Most courts arent giving women who make good money alimony, nor are most women who make good money fighting for it when things just fall flat.
Also, I dont know if it was this thread or the other, but HT has been saying career should be important for finding a mate. Now, I just didnt think about it, and saw more responses sounding like its at the bottom of the list guys look for...but shouldnt it then be one of the biggest factors if you're concerned about divorce? I mean, a chick with a really good career seriously minimizes your exposure. Its like if I said, I dont really care about the income levels of the people I'm inviting to my party. Then people come into my place, and one breaks my expensive vase, they dont have the money to pay for it, so its a loss for me. If I'm worried about this exposure, shouldnt one of my big qualifications be, anyone who comes to my party needs to make good money to be able to pay for what they break?
Spousal support largely depends on the NATURE of the marriage. Its not as simple as if you make money, you'll have to pay.
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