The very few times a man on this forum agrees with me.

But YES. Most club goers are in their 20s. Most are not in a club for serious intentions. If your ideal of quality is beauty, then clubs, Instagram and FB are the go to.

I say, if you're looking for a little bit of each, try a generic place like the gym. All sorts of people of all ages go there.

I don't see how a club or most places are going to be attracting the more beautiful girls. There's going to be a mix of women in most places. And I agree that the more interesting women (to me personally) wouldn't normally be clubbing. I can't say you can't meet some intelligent, well-rounded women at the club, but your batting average is going to be lower than it should be.

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And what's with these social media references of chicks with 1000's of followers? These are like needles in a haystack. I'm more impressed with girls who don't have social media. Are you guys obsessed with trying to date D-list celebrities?

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Disagree on the club point. Teachers go out for drinks and dancing. So do lawyers, so do nurses and accountants and pharmaceutical sales reps. That's a purity fallacy

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They do. But often? Once in a blue moon. So chances of you bumping into a certain type is low.

Why do "quality women" have money and a good career? I really don't care what a chick does for a living.

"Quality" pretty much boils down to whether she's fun to be around, and feminine.

Maybe lesbians could use this system. It has no application to men. I'd rather date a fun chick that works at Starbucks than a moderately-less fun lawyer.

And I've noticed a negative correlation between a woman's education level/career achievements and femininity. Most career chicks are not very feminine and they like to fight. It's not attractive.

I'd say "high quality" chicks are far more likely to be a dental hygienist, a school teacher, or a hair stylist than a lawyer or a doctor. Most chicks who exit medical school are not fun.

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And a doctor can't be a high quality woman?
Plus, you're still at that age where you are growing. Aren't you just starting college? Because things change down the road.

Yeah, true to an extent. Big time career chicks do like to fight, are opinionated, etc. They're less likely to put up with a man's crap.

One dude on a forum wrote after his divorce, he's now aiming for chicks slightly below him so she won't leave him. Nice job.

Quality is subjective. However, I prefer women that can pay for themselves if need be. I prefer a woman that has a career and ambitions. As I've gotten older, I've realized that if a woman has nothing going for her, she's depending on you to provide everything and that's including fun. When you are responsible for everything, anything that's missing is your fault. How many times have you heard that a woman cheats because the man works too much while she's sitting at home with nothing to do? He's providing and she fucks him over because there wasn't enough fun.

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I used a lot of adjectives in that post. I was pointing out that it's a fallacy that "quality woman" has almost anything to do with her career.
A doctor is only a "quality woman" if she'd be a "quality woman" while working at Logan's Steakhouse. Her career and education adds nothing of value. Nothing.
Women like a husband to be high earning. Men do not care.

You were saying "quality women" are too busy with their fancy careers to be going out. But on average that lawyer or doctor who's so busy is not the highest quality woman. The florist or the photographer is probably better on average. Of course there are some great chicks who are doctors. But she'd be exactly as "high quality" if she was managing a Target.
Yes, women who can't hold a job, or are stuck in dead-end jobs tend to be dumb and or have other problems. But if you were choosing between two women where one was an assistant director of some shitty charity with a 40k income, versus a woman in management consulting drawing 150k, would her career even seriously factor for you?

Would it rank ahead of a good head of hair? An alluring voice? Similar entertainment interests? Nice legs? Good fashion sense? A playful demeanor? If I had you write up a list of things you want in a woman, would "career" or "education" even rank in the top ten?

If not, that's a terrible way to define "quality". Imagine we did that with wine. Well, it tastes bad, it smells awful, the bottle is ugly, it's cracked and has bugs in it, but it sure is a pleasant hue! Quality wine!

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If I was to spend any significant time with a woman, obviously sexual attraction factors in. I'm not going to be with any woman that I'm not sexually attracted to. If I had an extremely hot girl with nothing but her looks and being fun going for her and a girl that is cute and stand on her own...I'd rather have the cute girl if I was forced to make a choice between the two at some point. So yes, career would rank in my top 10. Individual physical assets are kind of stupid to factor in because you can look at a girl and know if you are physically attracted to her or not.

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She'd probably be in a better position if she had more money. All of us likely would. But that doesn't mean he values her having more money. Just because something is better for a woman to have, doesn't mean it makes her more attractive. Having a low risk of heart disease and cancer is also a good thing for her to have. I've never said "Damn, that low risk of osteoporosis sure makes her a better prospect!".

I imagine he knew higher earning women. Yet he went with the hot one. That's because income is real, real low on the priority list. But his income was probably a big factor to her. It doesn't cut both ways.

How so? If you'd take it into consideration, it's a factor. I'm saying look at everything you consider in a partner. That includes both physical traits, and non-physical traits. Career is way down that list. So it's a terrible way to define "quality".

I think income is definitely in the top ten list for what women look for in men, including physical traits. There is a massive difference in importance between how each gender views this.

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You know, from an early age, kids are taught to strive for As, and failure is looked down upon.
Don't think women are the exemption.

Secondly, so what if he chose the hot one? He could have had both smokin' hot and big career, harder to find, but I've seen cases where the dude purposefully declined dating those types and opted for the poorer one? Why? Most likely insecurity issues and control. It's easier to keep her if she's depending on him largely. Less complaints, too, lol.

If I'm out and see girls that are attractive, I may find them all attractive for different reasons. I find Scarlett Johansson and Nicky Minaj both physically attractive and they both look completely different. I don't even question why I find them both attractive...so a list of criteria for attractiveness is stupid.

Like I said...quality is subjective. Because a career is way down on your list doesn't make you the authority on my or anyone else's preferences.

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Once again. Legalized prostitution

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Uh, legalized prostitution? Dude, I'm not saying the girl doesn't have a job, etc. I'm saying, she is beautiful but have a very small income compared to his. How is that legalized prostitution? I have a friend that's earning 45k and her man 250k. Is that to you legalized prostitution too?

Thank god for prenups. Somehow she is entitled to his money ? Why ? Because she puts out ? Well she better put out all the time. If not, she's not a good prostitute. He's better off paying the local ones and get guaranteed sex. Is he in a relationship with a woman or a child ? Just because he makes 250k she can start buying some expensive handbags and some crazy jewelry? She better put out when there's a transaction then. Like a prostitute.

Can this man claim this woman as a dependent on his tax returns ? Because clearly she needs a handout.

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