When I call her what do I say?

learn to have a conversation with another human first.

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I used to call girls but I think texting seems to be the norm now. I have found that some find it ballsy when you call and others think it's creepy.

Don't over think this man. When in doubt just keep things fun and lighthearted. Make a little bit of small talk but then go for setting up a meetup. And don't get too crazy with emoticons or lol's.

What do you say to a woman when you approach her in person? What do you say to your friends while you are hanging out? Are you capable of having a lengthy conversation with another human being? If you can hang out with your friend and talk for a hour to two hours, you can call up a woman and talk for 20 mins.

When two people connect, conversations just start to flow naturally. No one is thinking about what they're going to say, or planning what they are going to say. They just sort of vibe out.

So you're not calling to seduce right away, you're calling to find out if you guys even have a connection. If you don't, you move on and try again with another. If you do, you move to the next step.

You can't be a baby man.. Call up and figure it out man. Its better to call up and make your mistakes then come back and ask us what you did wrong and how can you improve, than to sit on your hands and do nothing until you get an answer.

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Thanks for the reply guys. I had a pretty nice convo with her before getting her #. It was just the whole scenario itself. She was waiting for a guy friend whom I think she is dating or something idk but I know that she doesn't have a bf. It was weird because before giving me her number she looked at him and then looked at me and proceeded so it was a bit awkward with me and the other guy. Of course I didn't make it awkward I just felt that vibe off of him. I introduced myself to him though afterwards then we parted ways. Oh and and I called twice but no one answered and she called back but stayed quiet on the phone to see who it was and then just hung up lol so it was probably a flake number? It is her number because she has a voicemail and I could recognize her but maybe I didn't build enough value or connection?