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A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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I got LMR with this one girl! What do I do?
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 12:36 pm 
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Why is it that literally ALL women, even the ones that show obvious interest in me all seem terrified or super shy of me?

There was this woman that wanted to talk with me online so badly and then when we finally did it was going well until the moment I asked her on a date. That pisses me off so much, because I knew at that moment...ok I'm going to have to manipulate her now.

I talked her into going on a date with me at a park tomorrow night that has a romantic view and told her we would take things slow (only kissing no sex). After much hesitation, she finally said yes. She also agreed to drink some beers with me that I will buy at a local convenient store on the way to the park.

Even if she doesn't flake on me tomorrow, I know it is probably going to be a pain in the fucking ass. Women are usually always more trouble than they are worth. I will drink with her at the park, but I already know she is going to give me a ton of LMR when it is kissing time.

Why are women so much fucking trouble these days? Does anyone have any good advice (besides making her drink a lot of beers). I'm not going to let her get away with drinking just one can of beer because that is some bullshit. If she shows up tomorrow night, I'm going to make her drink at least 2 cans.

I would appreciate any advice. I'm so tired of all women, even the ones who really like me doing sudden 180's on my ass. People say I have a scary face with intense features. I have been told by multiple people that I look like Jesus with long hair and that sometimes I look like the devil. I'm not making this shit up. Life and people are so fucking annoying...


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2016 6:14 pm 
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After reading your post it seems to me that not only women annoy you. You have mentioned that everything in this world is annoying. The reason may be in your life. Perhaps, you don't have the work you are satisfied with or something else you would like to reach but haven't yet and this makes you not satisfied with everything. As for the women...They are also different and there are some that really worth our attention and more than just buying drinks. Find the one you really like and maybe then you will even get satisfaction from spending your time and energy on her. Don't worry,be happy))) Everything looks in such a way as we look at it.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 2:50 am 
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The park? Sounds a bit lame. How about bringing wine to the park? Maybe because they feel like you don't want to put in the time and effort for a date?


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 4:26 am 
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Why?

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People think of you as scary. Work on being less scary lol

Being angry and bitter like your post sure as hell doesn't help your disposition. Seek inner peace and it will reflect on the outside.

Also, just some general life advice: As soon as you think there's something wrong with an entire group of people because you think they ALL respond to you in a certain way you don't like, more often than not the problem is with you, not them.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:42 pm 
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Why?

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People think of you as scary. Work on being less scary lol

Being angry and bitter like your post sure as hell doesn't help your disposition. Seek inner peace and it will reflect on the outside.

Also, just some general life advice: As soon as you think there's something wrong with an entire group of people because you think they ALL respond to you in a certain way you don't like, more often than not the problem is with you, not them.
Yes, but here is the thing...most of the women don't even know I'm angry or unhappy. They just get creeped out or super nervous/shy/unsure around me suddenly...maybe my face is just scary as fuck. This has even happened with women that really really were into me. I feel so dysfunctional and I'm questioning whether or not I'm even a sane person. I literally might be insane. I don't believe in the saying that all crazy people don't know they are crazy. Surely, some serial killers (I'm not one, this is just an example) or maniacs know that they are in the wrong at times...

Anyway, I'm trying so hard to be happy but I always run into LMR and flaking like its going out of style. I should get an award as the LMR king. Women love to pull this shit on me on a daily basis!

I have also noticed that every single fucking time there is a woman I'm attracted to...she couldn't give a fuck less about me and every single fucking time there is a woman I couldn't give a fuck less about...she likes me. WHAT. THE. FUCK?!?!?!


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:46 pm 
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The park? Sounds a bit lame. How about bringing wine to the park? Maybe because they feel like you don't want to put in the time and effort for a date?
Bringing wine to the park was my original idea, but she told me she only drinks beer. The park is actually really awesome. It has this huge Greek/Roman style fountain in the center with lights and a great view from the 2nd story. There are also a line of symmetrical arches that go around the park. What is truly lame is that she flaked on me.


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Post the pics! lol

That frustration doesn't sound like its going to lead to anything positive.

I personally do not waste time with time wasters man. A billionaire isn't going to spend lots of time explaining, manipulate, and trying to convince any old person that they're a billionaire. You believe them or you don't, but they'll probably go about there business and laugh at you. Anyone that would spend excess time convincing, and trying to manipulate me into believing that they're a billionaire probably isn't one. And if they are, i'd probably be very suspicious of them and what they're intention are behind trying to convince me. I'd still take the invite to their mansion if they invited me, but I'd be extremely skeptical of them upon getting there.

You see where I'm going? Thats the effect your having.

You gotta slow up a bit man. You have to understand your value and be willing to walk away from anyone who doesn't get it or understand it. Check this article out I wrote. It should further expand on this topic: pua-lounge/topic190620.html

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You sound bitter. I can get why. But do you also carry that bitterness into your dates?
It sounds like a cycle.
Sound more alive, more enthused. You sound like you're dragging her on a date. Did she give a reason for bailing out? Don't ask her out again.

See, some men complain on and on about how they are so unlucky with women. But once they do go on a date, they act cheap, rude, clueless, aggressive, etc. And then they go home and complain some more about how they did everything they could and she acted like a bitch.

I almost went out on a date once with a really weird dude. He had the whole 'poor me, I'm such a great catch but women reject me' attitude. We just talked on the phone but he went on and on about his great accomplishments and got defensive saying he doesn't want to be used financially by women (never been kissed, never had a girl, never made it past first date). I cancelled the date. He wrote me a long E-mail accusing me of being like the rest of the chicks he's dated (since when is talking on the phone dating?)

Analyze yourself. Maybe you are doing something wrong.


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