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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:55 pm 
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If somehow I succumb to the confines of monogamy, you bet your ass I will sign a prenup. The idea that a woman gets half after divorce is crazy.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:28 am 
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If somehow I succumb to the confines of monogamy, you bet your ass I will sign a prenup. The idea that a woman gets half after divorce is crazy.

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Of course. I'm really starting to think I'll never be monogamous, though. Might get married one day, but it'll probably be an open relationship. Unless she's richer than me. Then I won't sign one :p


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But a prenup implies marriage though....

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But a prenup implies marriage though....

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Yeah I am aware. Which is why I said if I ever succumb to the confines of monogamy lol.

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I thought a prenup is to protect the wealthier spouse from the poorer one? So, if you pick a partner that earns relatively same as you, what's the use then?


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I thought a prenup is to protect the wealthier spouse from the poorer one? So, if you pick a partner that earns relatively same as you, what's the use then?

Right. What's the harm in making one and signing one ? People that get divorced won't have to argue as much about who owns what and what goes to who. It will be listed in the prenup. In case of children. I'll be happy to know that I don't have to talk to my spouse about what I can give to my children. I own my own things. I do what I want with my own things.

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I thought a prenup is to protect the wealthier spouse from the poorer one? So, if you pick a partner that earns relatively same as you, what's the use then?
It can stipulate what happens based on the reason for the divorce. For example, it can say that the spouse that cheats is not entitled to any type of alimony.

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I got engaged over a year ago. We didn't have a wedding date, but I guess it was probably going to be within the next year or so, odds are. I honestly never even considered a pre-nup. Which is dumb. But I was doing a lot of dumb things in that relationship.

I think it's good to think about things ahead of time, because you're sort of delusional when you're caught up in the highs of a relationship that's going well. You don't want to have to make hard decisions when you're least able to carry them out objectively.

You might want to draft a child custody thing too. That way you won't have a huge divorce fight if it comes.

You already have an agreement to handle dissolving the marriage, handling assets, and have rules laid out and agreed upon regarding the children. Half of all marriages end in divorce. It's a good idea to be prepared.

I didn't even make it to the altar. But what if I had? Seems like we'd be done soon anyway. I should have been better prepared. It's very important.

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I got engaged over a year ago. We didn't have a wedding date, but I guess it was probably going to be within the next year or so, odds are. I honestly never even considered a pre-nup. Which is dumb. But I was doing a lot of dumb things in that relationship.

I think it's good to think about things ahead of time, because you're sort of delusional when you're caught up in the highs of a relationship that's going well. You don't want to have to make hard decisions when you're least able to carry them out objectively.

You might want to draft a child custody thing too. That way you won't have a huge divorce fight if it comes.

You already have an agreement to handle dissolving the marriage, handling assets, and have rules laid out and agreed upon regarding the children. Half of all marriages end in divorce. It's a good idea to be prepared.

I didn't even make it to the altar. But what if I had? Seems like we'd be done soon anyway. I should have been better prepared. It's very important.

You aren't the first guy to never consider it. I think a lot of guys don't have the balls to have a prenup. The system screws men over in divorce. As long as this country insists that men pay child support when the women cheat on them and have children with other men, pre-nups are the best option to protect at least a portion of your earnings.

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If I had to be honest, I dont know if I would sign one. I'd think if I'm worried about her trying to fuck me over in court in the case of a divorce, I shouldnt be marrying her. I actually went to a wedding of a couple this weekend, both in law, one is a lawyer, the other is in financial law, and there was no prenup. I feel like that cheapens it. But I also understand the concept of being prepared. But personally, I'd not want my marriage to have that.

Also, its not as simple as the chick gets half in divorce. Many factors are considered such as what she contributed, length of the marriage. Even for myself, I mean, if a chick supports me while I grow a business and she forgoes her goals, she deserves some of it. Also, REALLY knowing who you are about to marry. I know a chick who married her high school sweetheart and gave her best years to him, he cheated, she stuck by him with therapy for a few years till they divorced. She didnt want anything. He gave her the house for all her support. Ive seen many people get screwed in a divorce, and most of the time its not as simple as they just fell out of love if she's pushing for your money. Ive also seen many people get divorced amicably, the wife doesnt try to screw the guy over. To Gumshoe, a chick wouldnt have gotten your money if you had divorced. Personally, I think if I dont know the chick well enough to know whether she's gonna come after shit she doesnt deserve, I wont get married.


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If I had to be honest, I dont know if I would sign one. I'd think if I'm worried about her trying to fuck me over in court in the case of a divorce, I shouldnt be marrying her. I actually went to a wedding of a couple this weekend, both in law, one is a lawyer, the other is in financial law, and there was no prenup. I feel like that cheapens it. But I also understand the concept of being prepared. But personally, I'd not want my marriage to have that.

Also, its not as simple as the chick gets half in divorce. Many factors are considered such as what she contributed, length of the marriage. Even for myself, I mean, if a chick supports me while I grow a business and she forgoes her goals, she deserves some of it. Also, REALLY knowing who you are about to marry. I know a chick who married her high school sweetheart and gave her best years to him, he cheated, she stuck by him with therapy for a few years till they divorced. She didnt want anything. He gave her the house for all her support. Ive seen many people get screwed in a divorce, and most of the time its not as simple as they just fell out of love if she's pushing for your money. Ive also seen many people get divorced amicably, the wife doesnt try to screw the guy over. To Gumshoe, a chick wouldnt have gotten your money if you had divorced. Personally, I think if I dont know the chick well enough to know whether she's gonna come after shit she doesnt deserve, I wont get married.

But most guys are not thinking like that in whirlwind of emotions. I just witnessed my cousin propose and he is only 19 years old. He is head over heels for this woman and the woman seems to be too...but I just can see it now :(

Most guys won't entertain the what ifs. They are looking at marriage as a romance. But once divorce hits, its not about the romance and it is about the money.

The study, based on a survey of over 2000 heterosexual couples, found that women initiated nearly 70% of all divorces.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/th ... -heres-why

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If I had to be honest, I dont know if I would sign one. I'd think if I'm worried about her trying to fuck me over in court in the case of a divorce, I shouldnt be marrying her. I actually went to a wedding of a couple this weekend, both in law, one is a lawyer, the other is in financial law, and there was no prenup. I feel like that cheapens it. But I also understand the concept of being prepared. But personally, I'd not want my marriage to have that.

Also, its not as simple as the chick gets half in divorce. Many factors are considered such as what she contributed, length of the marriage. Even for myself, I mean, if a chick supports me while I grow a business and she forgoes her goals, she deserves some of it. Also, REALLY knowing who you are about to marry. I know a chick who married her high school sweetheart and gave her best years to him, he cheated, she stuck by him with therapy for a few years till they divorced. She didnt want anything. He gave her the house for all her support. Ive seen many people get screwed in a divorce, and most of the time its not as simple as they just fell out of love if she's pushing for your money. Ive also seen many people get divorced amicably, the wife doesnt try to screw the guy over. To Gumshoe, a chick wouldnt have gotten your money if you had divorced. Personally, I think if I dont know the chick well enough to know whether she's gonna come after shit she doesnt deserve, I wont get married.

But most guys are not thinking like that in whirlwind of emotions. I just witnessed my cousin propose and he is only 19 years old. He is head over heels for this woman and the woman seems to be too...but I just can see it now :(

Most guys won't entertain the what ifs. They are looking at marriage as a romance. But once divorce hits, its not about the romance and it is about the money.

The study, based on a survey of over 2000 heterosexual couples, found that women initiated nearly 70% of all divorces.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/th ... -heres-why

But what are you afraid of for him? He's 19. Probably doesnt have a good enough income to be screwed over. If he works, and she works too, they get divorced in a 5 years, probably not gonna get taken. If she doesnt work and he does, they divorce in 5 years, I'm sure she would have supported him throughout that time. Even then the court will typically give her minimal spousal support for a period of time until she finishes school or something. The guys are who are getting screwed are the guys who have been in long marriages where the wife supported him or can prove she gave up work for the benefit of the family.

Like you, you may work and meet a chick who works, get married and just live a normal life no kids. But its not like that in most cases. Husband and wives come together, decide well he makes more money so he'll provide while she takes a less demanding job to take care of the kids. If they divorce, the court attempts to compensate her for her lost career time. If you and your wife work, and have kids, court is gonna try split assets, which since you both worked should come out fairly.

What scenario are you envisioning where a woman takes half of your money and does not deserve it?


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But what are you afraid of for him? He's 19. Probably doesnt have a good enough income to be screwed over. If he works, and she works too, they get divorced in a 5 years, probably not gonna get taken. If she doesnt work and he does, they divorce in 5 years, I'm sure she would have supported him throughout that time. Even then the court will typically give her minimal spousal support for a period of time until she finishes school or something. The guys are who are getting screwed are the guys who have been in long marriages where the wife supported him or can prove she gave up work for the benefit of the family.

Like you, you may work and meet a chick who works, get married and just live a normal life no kids. But its not like that in most cases. Husband and wives come together, decide well he makes more money so he'll provide while she takes a less demanding job to take care of the kids. If they divorce, the court attempts to compensate her for her lost career time. If you and your wife work, and have kids, court is gonna try split assets, which since you both worked should come out fairly.

What scenario are you envisioning where a woman takes half of your money and does not deserve it?

You're assuming my cousin will always be poor. If he starts making money at some point and he has no prenup, he will be at risk just like those who are already making money and getting married with no prenup.


And you are banking on the women never changing. 5 years? A woman can change in 5 years. Having a long-lasting great marriage based on picking a “great woman” assumes that women don’t ever change. It assumes that five or ten years from now she won’t start acting like almost every other woman in western society starts acting once married. The woman you marry today is not the same woman you will be married to years down the road

I don't believe in marriage anyway, if told my woman that she had to pay me 400 dollars a month for the next five years and if you don't you will go to prison, she will never agree to that. So why should men ? The reason I started this thread is to see the mentality of those who still believe in marriage. I want to see if they will at least sign a prenup if they go down that route. Saying I am different than all those other guys. I can make it work is an emotional response than a logical response. It's a hope. You can control your actions, you can't control the actions of your spouse.


And once again, 70% of the divorces are initiated by the women. Rarely are divorces mutual. And check out the infidelity rates while youre at it. There are guys out there who are raising another man's child who was a product of infidelity and they don't even know it. Once they get divorced, they are going to pay child support for that


https://www.myfloridalaw.com/child-supp ... he-father/

For example this is an excerpt from this website

The state of Florida does not care if you are the real father or not. The courts do not care if you are the real father or not. No one in the legal community cares either. The law is quite clear on who gets the priority and who receives the benefit of doubt in these types of situations. That person is the child. The only thing current laws care about is that children receive proper financial support. All the emotion and fairness of the situation is completely stripped out in favor of that one concept. And it is entirely possible that child support will continue on for many years even if there is a universal understanding you are not the real rather.


Men are not destined to win in this legal system.

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Where were men like you 200 years ago when women couldn't vote, couldn't work and were beat the living shit out of them for putting the wrong meal on the table?


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Where were men like you 200 years ago when women couldn't vote, couldn't work and were beat the living shit out of them for putting the wrong meal on the table?

I am still waiting for the benefits of marriage in this era when I asked in the other thread. Don't change the subject.

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