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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 7:09 pm 
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I find this funny bc I'm not attracted to white girls.


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I find this funny bc I'm not attracted to white girls.
Ditto. To each their own.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2016 10:18 pm 
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If you use girls you aren't attracted to to "warm up" you actually exacerbate the problem by putting the women you do want on a pedestal.

I have never heard a white girl say she was mad a guy didn't approach her because she is the society standard of beauty. It's not a conscious thought like that.

Get a fucking job or start your own gig.

Stop thinking foreign people are beneath you.

Roosh V is an asshole.

Mystery was using chess as a metaphor. Pawns are not as important to take, generally, as the advantage you get by taking the queen in a game of chess. He didn't literally mean pawns as worthless people and the queen as a supreme female entity.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 12:44 am 
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All of the other shit aside.. I never thought I'd hear of a WHITE guy thinking about race when he wants WHITE women.
I guess love is love and race doesn't matter much in the end, but there's still a tendency for me toward white women.

So, you're pointing out how everyone gives a pass to people from other races who want white women, but if I'm white, I get taunted for wanting white women?

I definitely don't think I should be criticized for saying I prefer my own race.

Some psychologists say that we seek out people who resemble our parents, because our parents are the only thing we see for the first 2 years of our lives.

Racism is an issue worldwide and is responsible for most of the violence on this planet, I agree.

But wanting to date within your own race isn't racist, if there's a biological drive towards this.
None of this has anything to do with what I was saying. I dont care whether you date or like white girls, black girls, asians or whatever. What is silly to me, is you are bringing a racial dynamic into getting women of your own race. Like if a guy was from Canada, living in Canada and he knows Cananadian women prefer guys from Cananda which he is, why would he then think well I like Canadian women and not Spanish women, but let me play this game of using Spanish women because they like Canandian men to get Canadian women who already like Canadian men. The silly part is, if you're white, and like white girls, and white girls prefer white guys, why cant that just be the end of it? Why all the extra stuff about race when that doesnt apply to you? Its like a tall guy who only like tall women who themselves like taller men adding in using short women to get tall women.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:07 pm 
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Well it seems like the viewpoints of the PUA community have changed.

The impression I got from reading Roosh V and watching Mystery videos is that the whole PUA scene is based on manipulation and deception.

Mystery referred to specific women as "pawns" used to get to the "queen" and things like that.

Roosh objectifies women and talks pretty candidly about how foreign women view USA men and vice-versa.

I don't think it's unrealistic to say that white people are idealized. I'm not saying it's right or proper. I'm just saying that commercial culture and Hollywood have made things this way.

Malcom X says, in his own autobiography, that before he converted to Islam he was hung up on white women because he was brainwashed into believing they represented the social ideal.

Then, there are studies of dating preferences and surveys that show, using statistics, that there are certain interracial preferences that are stronger than others.

For example, these studies show that Asian women have a strong preference towards white men. These studies also show that white women are strongly biased against Asian men.

The way I put it sounds bad but I am parroting stuff I read in articles like this:

"All women except black women are most drawn to white men, and men of all races (with one notable exception) prefer Asian women." --> http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/ ... sian-women

http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/race- ... 2009-2014/
http://www.theestablishment.co/2015/10/ ... tchmaking/

Writings from a black journalist:
http://gawker.com/the-reality-of-dating ... 1585401039
"Let's be real, blonde hair and blue eyes are fucking attractive and thinking that doesn't mean you're a piece of shit who gives those features inherent value over the features of other races."

Anyways, I understand that my post is offensive. I appreciate the feedback you guys have given me and I'll try to work on my thought process so that I can at least learn from my mistakes here.

I'm not going to give up on trying to improve the way I relate to people. The reason it has taken this long is because I heard the same things you guys are saying way back when I was younger and I just "dropped out" and became a hermit instead of trying to face things head on. I want to change and I am willing to endure a good amount of trauma to overcome the hurdles and obstacles I am facing.
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The impression I got from reading Roosh V and watching Mystery videos is that the whole PUA scene is based on manipulation and deception.
You got the wrong impression.
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I don't think it's unrealistic to say that white people are idealized. I'm not saying it's right or proper. I'm just saying that commercial culture and Hollywood have made things this way.
To a large, VERY general extent this is true. However, this does not mean that every specific case is true.

In GENERAL, black Afro and Caribbean/Americans dominate at sprints in major sporting events

Does this mean that if I (a black Afro/Caribbean) lace up a pair of running shoes I'll automatically beat every non-Afro Caribbean/American person?

No, because I'm not NEARLY at the level of skill and athleticism of these persons who have been training.


Likewise, being a white person may mean that certain girls are more likely to be attracted - but it doesn't mean that they will AUTOMATICALLY be attracted to you, and that you'll magically have a better chance at success with them.


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