Is it almost ALWAYS on the guy to call and text?



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:14 am 
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When after getting the number it seems like it's almost ALWAYS on me to initiate conversations. There's been a few time a girl's interest was high so she did some with me, but in general I find myself having to initiate.

Is it true I have to do most the texts etc? And when is enough to know it's not worth it anymore? I have girls that will respond and have flirty conversation. But it's just filler for their life I feel like because at the end of the day I can't get them to go out with me.

So I wait a few days or a week then text again and it starts all over again, and I ask her out then it's no in a loop. Though sometimes it's right place right time so they may come around, when do I know it's not worth the effort?!


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If she keeps making excuses to your overtures to hangout.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:56 am 
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It's like a seesaw

Initiate since the man should lead. Girls don't approach guys in the street and tell them they're cute. You have to be proactive

Then, tone it down a little after she is invested and then suddenly you will shift from being the initiator to the replier. That is when you know you will have sex with her.

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Yeah. It's on the guy to be the guy.

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Its your job to establish the emotionally connection. Once thats established you'll probably only be doing 20-30% of the initiating. If the women you're meeting aren't initiating conversation, they're just not that into you yet.

After getting a number I'll call the majority of the time. And after a 30-45 minute phone call the girls will text me good morning/good afternoon 80% of the time. I've followed the model that I build and she maintains. I build the house, she decorates it, furnishes it and makes it a home. So i establish the connection, through approaching, seducing, extracting, calling - all the create the emotional connection. And she then maintains what i've established through initiating.

There are situations in which the woman will be pursuing you completely, but those come more and more frequently as you put in the work to better your game. As a beginning you will be doing the majority of the initiating, at least at the beginning. Once they're hooked you can go into cruise control and they'll be taking care of that for the most part.

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