No but he's seen post cards and it on TV, same thing really.

This clearly isn’t the New England area here in the US. Where are you from? Certainly don’t see this in Southeast Asia either. Not while I was single or taken. I still watch what’s going on around me.
Again, see the response above.
Of course girls go home with guys from the bar, what’s your point?
And again, you can argue that those numbers are the norm, even for these supposedly universally-amazingly-attractive women, but I doubt you’re counting. You can also make up stuff here to save face with impunity, no different than the guys selling seminars.
In case you haven’t started to appreciate the subjective nature of this topic, why don’t you at least start backing up some of this supposedly “universal” thinking by defining what an average girl is. I mean, how do you tell who’s above average without a reference point? Except you won’t even find any agreement on that, either.

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Have you seen this? Pretty much what you're suggesting.

http://jonmillward.com/blog/attraction- ... xperiment/

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I never claimed they provide absolute truth. That's the bullshit right there.

I also said that my in-field experience suggested otherwise (mostly that his claims were exaggerations or completely unsubstantiated - he provided zero rationale for most his claims). Are we going to measure in-field experience penis size now? With nothing being verifiable? The claims of even 10 guys on here won't replace quality research into the basics of attraction. The basics. Stuff people think they have down, but often do not. End of story.

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That's like saying: "I didn't say you lied. I said you didn't tell the truth." Let's go back to what you said.
The antonym of subjective is objective. The synonym of pure is 100%. 100% is absolute.

That's what you implied: Concrete researches in attractiveness are the absolute truth.
A good scientific research is one that can be repeated or replicated by other researchers and the results will be the same or similar.

You've got at least two guys on here who live in different parts of the world who have similar experiences with Neo when it comes to hot girls being hit on a lot of times. N2 provided a method on how to verify and validate this field experience; that is: create a fake POF profile using the picture of a decent looking woman.

I provided another method on how to verify and validate Neo's field observation; that is: look at a Facebook photo of a hot, non-celebrity woman.

On the otherhand, you are calling these two methods "measure(ment of) in-field experience penis size."

If you don't want to try any of those two methods to verify one of Neo's claims, that's fine with me. However, those who are lurking on this thread who try at least one method will be able to easily tell the bullshit from what is really happening out there in the real world versus the Hollywood movies that you've been watching in your mom's basement.

What's so goddamn difficult about creating a fake POF profile or looking at a Facebook profile? You don't need MRI equipment for this nor have to simulate a statistical model to interpret the results. N2 and I gave you basic, common sense research that any Tom, Dick and Harry can do at the comfort of their homes. If you can't do basic research like this on your own using your computer, I am highly doubtful if you've got the guts to go inside a mall, approach 10 sets of women, and get the hottest woman in a set on an instadate.

The penis measuring contest hasn't started yet. We're just discussing basic research here.

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Because it was a question asking if you're speculating or speaking from experience.

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Don’t put words in my mouth when you know what I meant. I’m not one for advocating extremes. It’s pretty clear that I implied that research can help explain in a more objective way the more subjective parts of attractiveness. Without the research, it’s purely subjective. With research, it’s less subjective. To what degree it would be less subjective I didn’t state directly – because it’s impossible to know. You assumed it would be 100%.
A vague statement. “Lots of times.” We have no idea what “hit on” here means, what “lots of times” means, or if anyone even counted. Is this the great science we’re talking about?
Online and real life. Finger and butthole. Really stretching your imagination here, eh? If anything, how about that approach anxiety PUAs always talk about? That’s zero online and … impossible to measure in real life and therefore we don’t know just how many approaches a girl would get online relative to real life. Why am I even bothering pointing this out? Finger and butthole. I’ll leave it at that. Nice “validation.”
Are you referring to the POF and Facebook (2) methods? In that case, no, that’s not what I’m referring to. I’m referring to my own “field experience” vs. his and which is more ‘valid’ (via the penis size reference). Obviously we can’t compare our experiences in a meaningful way, so it was a facetious statement.
Oh the ‘mom’s basement’ makes an appearance. That’s an expected line from a guy that suggests that online “likes” equal real life approaches. Thanks for the laugh. The amount of likes is going to be directly related to her # of FB “friends”, right? If so, your idea is beyond idiotic. Real life vs. online. Finger vs. butthole.
I have to write you off as an idiot then, because the amount of bogus assumptions you’ve made has gone through the stratosphere. I’m married and have been with the same girl for almost 8 years. Your suggestions of “research” are laughable. I do investment research (as part of the portfolio management process) for work. Last thing I need is your advice on research.

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Your posts are nothing more than you trying to exert intellectual superiority using misplaced 'facts' and pseudo-intellectual gobbledygook. You're embarrassing yourself, yet you persist in going further down the rabbit hole.

It's actually quite amusing to watch. Especially when one takes into account the level of investment you have in battling opinions. You're certainly quite thin-skinned.

Enough of this bullshit. Most unedited Facebook photos are digital renderings of real people living their lives for real with friends and what not. A hot girl in a photograph along with her set of girlie friends which consists of a few hot girls and several fuglies and fatties is an accurate representation of what the typical girlie set consists of.

For the lurkers out there who are still afraid to go out and sarge, use at least one of the two methods and verify:

1. Does a hot girl get hit on at least 20 times on Facebook or POF? When you finally get the confidence to go inside a nightclub in a metropolis with a population of at least 500 thousand, does a hot girl get hit on at least 20 times in an hour on the dancefloor?

2. Is the typical girlie set composed of 100 percent hot girls, 100 percent plain janes, 100 percent fuglies, or 100 percent fatties? Or is a typical girlie set a mixture of a few attractive girls and the rest are either plain janes, fuglies or fatties?

Auto, you are not the only guy here who has a profession in investments. This forum has members who have PhDs, MBAs, various college degrees as well as members who are college dropouts and highschool level dudes. You are not the ONLY guy here who has written a dissertation, worked on feasibilty studies, pored over financial statements, analyzed moving averages, wrote technical asessments and so on and so forth.

Many of us here can smell your bullshit.

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Hey auto... Can't quote right now but... I speak again and again on chicks being seen as attractive in a PARTICULAR AREA.. CITY... OR VENUE.. OVER AND OVER.. To the point where you tell me the world is bigger than the bar. Remember that? Now you say I'm making a case for UNIVERSALLY ATTRACTIVE WOMEN.... What?

How do you take chicks in a city or area or venue and twist that into I'm saying universal attractiveness is a thing? Lol you're the one who said I was being too specific and now I'm the guy talking universally? At least debate what I'm saying not what's in your head

Neo, it's pretty obvious from Auto's posts in this thread that he has ZERO to very negligible field experience sarging women in nightclubs or anywhere for that matter during the past 12 months at the very least. He is basing his opinions on pure conjecture and his hazy recollection of his very limited in-field experience some 8 years in the past.

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Oh look, the petty, whiny curmudgeon makes an appearance! The truly amusing thing is you claiming you ignore my posts, but then continuing to make comments about them.
Chicks being notably more attractive in a particular area/city/etc. is something you made up in your own head. At least, that’s what it sounds like to me.
Regarding universal attractiveness, that’s what you were indirectly suggesting when you claimed that you can easily tell if you’re better looking than your friends or when a girl just “knows” she’s more attractive than her friend, excluding obvious cases.

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What are you even on about at this point? I don’t care what you’re going to find on FB or POF – online and real life are worlds apart in this case.
It would be even better if you could smell your own bullshit. That way, you’ll realize how ridiculous some of the claims on here are, including yours that online “likes” equal girls getting hit on in real life (we still haven’t even defined that “getting hit on” means).
Hahahaha… are you suffering from PUA-drivel withdrawal symptoms? If you want pure conjecture, or just complete fiction… keep buying these bullshit PUA claims about women being hounded by men 24/7. Save for a summer (2008) where I bought into Neil Strauss’s “The Game” I don’t view the world as some hunting ground where I’m opening “sets”, selecting women as “targets” and launching “boyfriend destroyers” after my “wingman” gives me the signal… I live life in an enjoyable way and try and meet new, interesting people along the way. Some of these people happen to be women. No over-thinking anything, no pressure, no bullshit. Normal people don’t overthink this stuff. People are still making babies regularly as far as I can tell. Even though I haven’t been single for a long time, I haven’t gone blind to male/female interactions and certainly haven’t stopped going out regularly. In fact, nothing has really changed except I go home with or to the same girl now. I can still end up going out solo or with male company, I’m not attached at the hip to my wife. Dive bars, discotheques, sports bars, craft cocktail bars and fine dining establishments and more. Maybe not, but it seems to me, quite expectedly, that you think that meeting women revolves around nightclubs. This is complete horseshit. Regarding nightclubs: I’ve got more reason than most people to actually go to them, since I’m an electronic music lover (House, Progressive, Trance, Techno, etc.). I used to DJ the stuff years ago in clubs, lounges and on the radio. I’m always down to see a good DJ spin a quality set when they visit Boston.
I’d say I’m far more knowledgeable now than I was before I met my wife about male/female interactions and certainly have some very interesting inside scoop from the stuff my wife tells me about her interactions with other females. If I’m sitting alone at a bar of some kind and there’s someone sitting next to me and I either feel really bored or they stand out in a positive way, I’ll strike up a conversation. About 50% of the time it’ll be a girl… surprise!

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