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PostPosted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:32 am 
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What is the friendzone ? It's basically when a girl doesn't like you in a romantic way. It's usually because you aren't her type. Most of the time she was attracted to you at one point but the guy was slow in showing in his intent. Too much rapport could be the cause which can cause the window of attraction to close. Most guys don’t have a problem creating attraction, they have trouble moving it in a specific direction.

FRIENDZONE = She likes you but doesn’t like you in a romantic way.

Sometimes the girl you’re talking to really wants to focus on her career and you are over here trying to make her your girlfriend already. She will cut you off. Now if you believed girls were sexual and were interested in sex, then this wouldn’t be a problem.


I have a feeling that guys try to avoid rejection by being friends. Don’t do that. It’s not healthy and you aren’t showing your true intentions. Hit the gas; show some interest beyond friend level so you can find out where you stand with the girl. Women will always respect when you go for what you want even if it doesn’t pan out. It frees your time and frees your mind from this girl. I understand that it’s easy as fuck to go into rapport but seriously man, throw some attraction in there and some sexual vibes


Reasons for getting into the friendzone and just accepting the reality. Without hard feelings.


It opens up the door for opportunities. It can get you into a new social circle. If she has hot friends…ding ding ding. I only recommend this for guys that have the basics down and have been having some success. If you are still the guy that can’t get out or know why you’re in the friendzone in the first place then I do not recommend you make her your friend if you still happen to be pining over her even when she clearly rejects you. These guys tend to have some crazy scheme that they can change a girls mind. If that's you...stop reading.

For those that get it.

It’s not bad of an awful place. You don’t want to be taking swings at every girl you meet if you want to build a social circle. It actually works in your favor being that guy that doesn’t take things personally and you never know whom your girl will know or what she has access to. In my personal experience my best girl friend has given me access to other girls. Over time, she saw that other girls were interested in me and eventually I laid her. Is this time wasted? Hell no, I went to the bar with this social group and it’s usually 1-3 guys and 4 chicks at the bar. Other girls at the bar take notice and it makes them easier to open. Not so bad for being a friendzoned dude huh?
I’ve watched this with my friend (not affiliated with PUA) who had a separate social circle than mine. I visited this particular social circle every now and then. My friend had parties at his house with the social circle I mentioned, got chummy chummy with a couple of chicks and every time I went there were always chicks around. My friend and his other guy friends pretty much just showed the girls who friendzoned them a good time and they had the pick of the litter.


I know that I have been seeing lately that guys have been asking what to do about a lady who is clearly not interested in them romantically and yes, find others girls is the usual response. Lets play the devils advocate here. What if the guy is actually not a total beginner and understands that maybe being in the friendzone isn't bad at all. Just a thought.

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The best way to beat the friend zone is to never fall in it.

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I used to consider myself some kind of expert at escaping the friendzone, but it's bullshit. I just did it by mistake a few times. It wasn't that I was great at escaping the friendzone; it was that I was shit at avoiding it in the first place.

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The best way to beat the friend zone is to never fall in it.
A good seducer is one who can friendzone women. He is in charge of his dating life.

Right. But when you're starting out, it's hard to ingrain and execute which is why there is always plan B. But plan B isn't to "convince her". Plan B is to hang out/contact her on your terms. Plan B is to take advantage and possibly meet more girl through her. If she friendzoned you, she will probably put you on to her friends.


But sometimes the girl wants chicken and you're offering pizza. It is what is. Accept it. But to move on? Eh, if she has a nice group of hot girls....I'd stick around 8) .

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I only scanned the thread so sorry if I repeat what you've already said, but the thing I've generally done is drifted away (unintentionally) from the girl who friendzoned me, wearing off the whole "like a brother to me" bullshit, and it has been more sexual when I've come back and treated them as if we were never just friends. I've avoided giving any advice about other guys or any of that shit.

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I only scanned the thread so sorry if I repeat what you've already said, but the thing I've generally done is drifted away (unintentionally) from the girl who friendzoned me, wearing off the whole "like a brother to me" bullshit, and it has been more sexual when I've come back and treated them as if we were never just friends. I've avoided giving any advice about other guys or any of that shit.

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I only scanned the thread so sorry if I repeat what you've already said, but the thing I've generally done is drifted away (unintentionally) from the girl who friendzoned me, wearing off the whole "like a brother to me" bullshit, and it has been more sexual when I've come back and treated them as if we were never just friends. I've avoided giving any advice about other guys or any of that shit.

Right. And that's perfectly fine to drift away. However, that's my point. After you get the whole "i only like you as a friend". it's cool to drift but you can hangout with her on your terms now and use the relationship to your benefit. Hot girlfriends ? She will introduce you to them. Social proof ? She can do that. Possibly fall into group mentality after she sees you with other chicks = eh maybe at some point but don't expect it.



I definitely do not recommend listening to her problems. She has a girlfriend for that. She has other male orbiters willing to listen to that. I am just talking in terms of whats beneficial to you. I haven't heard a girl talk about another dude in years. If they do, I just tell them i am not really interested in hearing that right now.

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Found this on a redpill site, pretty much explains the friendzone to a T.
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Examples:
Her: "You're such a nice guy."
Translation: "I've already assumed you're a beta who I can use for attention and favors. I also don't want anything from you beyond 'friendship' because I'm not attracted to you."

Her: "I really value our 'friendship'." or "Your 'friendship' means so much to me."
Translation: "I really like using you for attention and favors without having to reciprocate in kind (at least not in the way you would like). I'm also framing the nature of our relationship so you don't attempt to escalate it into something more."

Her: "You're such a good friend." or "You're like a brother to me."
Translation: "I know you're attracted to me, but I'm not attracted to you, and I want to keep you at the friendship/servant level so don't try to escalate it into something more."

Her: "I love the way you treat me. I love the things you do for me. I love the person you are."
Translation: "I strategically use the words 'love' and 'you' in the same sentence so you will erroneously assume that 'I love you'. That way you'll stay around longer as my servant in the false hope that I come around to loving you romantically."

Her: "That guy is such a jerk. I hate him."
Translation: "I'm secretly attracted to that guy, and likely having sex with him, but I want you to think I'm only interested in nice guys like you by pretending to hate jerks like him. That way you'll stay around longer as my servant."

Her: "Why can't I find a nice guy like you?" or "Why can't all men be more like you?"
Translation: "Why can't I find a nice guy like you that I am attracted to?" or The guy I met only a few hours ago pumped and dumped me, and I wish I could find a man as hot as him but attentive like you." or "I'm pretending to flatter you with false hopes of something beyond friendship so you'll stay around longer and do my bidding."

Her: "You and I as a couple? I don't know. I value our 'friendship'. Let's take things slow. Let's not rush anything. Maybe someday."
Translation: "I'm not attracted to you in that way, but I don't want to lose the attention and favors you're giving me, so I'm pretending to be interested in something more while continuing to use you." or "You seem nice, but I'm currently having good sex with other men and I don't want to give that up for you, but I'll throw you a bone to keep you in service to me."


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I only scanned the thread so sorry if I repeat what you've already said, but the thing I've generally done is drifted away (unintentionally) from the girl who friendzoned me, wearing off the whole "like a brother to me" bullshit, and it has been more sexual when I've come back and treated them as if we were never just friends. I've avoided giving any advice about other guys or any of that shit.

Right. And that's perfectly fine to drift away. However, that's my point. After you get the whole "i only like you as a friend". it's cool to drift but you can hangout with her on your terms now and use the relationship to your benefit. Hot girlfriends ? She will introduce you to them. Social proof ? She can do that. Possibly fall into group mentality after she sees you with other chicks = eh maybe at some point but don't expect it.



I definitely do not recommend listening to her problems. She has a girlfriend for that. She has other male orbiters willing to listen to that. I am just talking in terms of whats beneficial to you. I haven't heard a girl talk about another dude in years. If they do, I just tell them i am not really interested in hearing that right now.
Those are all great benefits if you're in the friendzone and want to be there. I have a few female friends like that. They still try to hook me up now and I'm not even available lol, bitches.

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Befriending a hot girl, can and will leverage other hot ass. But just a couple years or so back, I was trying like a mofo to climb out of the 'zone'.

It was like fucking an elephant, it took to years to get the desired result! Then when I got the prize, it was terrible. All she ever wanted was anal, she was like a convection oven, all she wanted to do was brown my meat.

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Befriending a hot girl, can and will leverage other hot ass. But just a couple years or so back, I was trying like a mofo to climb out of the 'zone'.

It was like fucking an elephant, it took to years to get the desired result! Then when I got the prize, it was terrible. All she ever wanted was anal, she was like a convection oven, all she wanted to do was brown my meat.

Haha, I dislike your visuals sometimes. Maybe I should have reworded the title to "avoiding" rather than escaping. It is definitely better to get a confirmation from the start so you can really free up your time and your mind.

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Haha, I dislike your visuals sometimes.
Try living them, LMAO.

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The best way to escape the friend zone is to never of been in it.

Always show your attraction, show your desire to fuck her. If she's not into you, then you'll know. So many dudes make the mistake of letting the friend zone happen with hopes that one day she will come around.

That shit will never happen, women want men that have no fear, that lead not follow. You have a far better chance of hooking up with her down the road if you initially tried to seduce her in the first place.

There is one way you can maybe escape a friend zone, and that is to totally change your attitude with her and if you can, seduce her friends and seduce them well. This may cause her to show some jealousy and act out on it by trying to secure your desire for her once again.

If you can pull that off, DO NOT fall into the same pattern with her, do not show any desire at all.

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You can escape the friend-zone if you're prepared to wait long enough like this guy. Basically stick around through every relationship she's hoping will work out, and rather be in than with you, and wait for her to get dumped. Then one day in her forties it'll suddenly dawn on her what a great match you've been all along.

I don't recommend that strategy, though.

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Don't you just love it when your hot girl has some friendzoned orbiter who you KNOW is only pretending to like you to be closer to her, and he sits at night getting upset on his own that she chose you over him? Like you can see a mile off that he just doesn't get it when it comes to women, but in his mind he's convinced that it'll be like a romcom and she'll eventually realise that the love of her life has been under her nose this whole time (him) haha.

Every time I break up with a girl, her male best friend suddenly hates me and sits talking to her about how she deserves better, then by the time she gets a new guy... I'm doing my own thing and don't care, and HE is always the one destroyed by it.

Just thought about this and this thread seemed like the good place to comment it, rather than trying to make it into a thread on its own. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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