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Evolutionary psychology is a weak social science, at best, that tries to boil down human behavior as if we were wolves, apes or birds as opposed to people with highly evolved brains capable of rational thought, emotion, and imagination.

So first and foremost be careful of getting Darwinian about pickup. Second, if you see something you want, go after it. You can call that chasing, but if you just sit around waiting for women to see your "immense value," you're going to lose out...a lot on women who just don't notice you.
in what way has evolutionary Psy been wrong?

yea people could override impulses from their subconscious, but the subconscious will always have an influence.

its our subconscious that makes us not want to close 1's and2's.


iagree with the second part. your social fitness isn't tht high where you could just sit idly by
It's been wrong since its inception. Evolutionary psychology is based on the idea that all behaviors are adaptations. Every single decision we make, according to EP, is rooted with a survival/replication motive. EP people push this false narrative with poorly designed if-then statements, and the research consists almost entirely of questionnaires. Surveys are the worst form of gathering data because people often give shitty answers, sometimes without even realizing it.

Evolution and adaptation are based on genetic drift, not conscious or unconscious decision making. Evolutionary psychology is based not on actual evolution (genetic drift) but rather the layman's idea of evolution (conscious or subconscious drive to something). There's a surprising amount of chance and randomness involved in actual adaptations and species evolution. PZ Myers explains it better than me:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2012 ... y-premise/

In relation to pickup, evolutionary psychology is a confirmation bias to the big three of anti-game (that looks money and status rule over all, and in the darkness bind them (extra parenthetical because it's awesome to use a Lord of the Rings quote)). In the case of this thread, some posters are suggesting that some men are able to display such high levels of the big three that women approach them and want the benefit of the big three for themselves and their offspring. Actual neuroscience studying how people react to stimuli, however, notes that we generally don't pay much attention to random people in our field of vision as opposed to constantly analyzing everyone around us. You are a piece of the background until you say or do something that gets her attention, and that's almost always a direct communication. You walk up to her and say "hi" to bring yourself into her focus. That's why an early goal in an interaction is to immerse her in the conversation and form that social bubble around the two of you. With that immersion, now instead of her seeing everything as the background and hearing everything as just noise, it's you, her, and everything as as background scenery and noise.

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i cant charge your mind nor can you mine.

but tell me please why do you prefer the HB10 over the below average 2?

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i cant charge your mind nor can you mine.

but tell me please why do you prefer the HB10 over the below average 2?
Don't try to prove your point by asking a stupid question. That man gave you a solid answer when you tried to call him out.

Attraction is largely created by what society deems as attractive. There is hardly any evolution in it. Mauritania is a prime example for this.

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I have a feeling that Galist, the "woman", and dicemaster are related in some way. Then again I have been watching social justice warriors get obliterated along with feminists, and sovereign citizens on youtube all day..


They remind me of those kinds of people. No real substance behind what they say. As I quote one sovereign citizen "I wasn't driving, I was traveling officer, you can't prove I was driving"


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I have a feeling that Galist, the "woman", and dicemaster are related in some way. Then again I have been watching social justice warriors get obliterated along with feminists, and sovereign citizens on youtube all day..


They remind me of those kinds of people. No real substance behind what they say. As I quote one sovereign citizen "I wasn't driving, I was traveling officer, you can't prove I was driving"


Adios.

i'll read that link and see what it is about

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I have a feeling that Galist, the "woman", and dicemaster are related in some way. Then again I have been watching social justice warriors get obliterated along with feminists, and sovereign citizens on youtube all day..


They remind me of those kinds of people. No real substance behind what they say. As I quote one sovereign citizen "I wasn't driving, I was traveling officer, you can't prove I was driving"


Adios.

i'll read that link and see what it is about

You might, but you won't respond. Once you claimed some "fact" about living in NYC and I responded that it was far from the truth because i've lived there for 18 years, you changed your opinion. But I knew what I was dealing with after that. I still laugh because I still see Jackzero's fish out of water gif whenever i see you Galist. I guess people appreciate you bumping their posts at least and keeping it relevant :wink:

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Evolutionary psychology is a weak social science, at best, that tries to boil down human behavior as if we were wolves, apes or birds as opposed to people with highly evolved brains capable of rational thought, emotion, and imagination.

So first and foremost be careful of getting Darwinian about pickup. Second, if you see something you want, go after it. You can call that chasing, but if you just sit around waiting for women to see your "immense value," you're going to lose out...a lot on women who just don't notice you.
in what way has evolutionary Psy been wrong?

yea people could override impulses from their subconscious, but the subconscious will always have an influence.

its our subconscious that makes us not want to close 1's and2's.


iagree with the second part. your social fitness isn't tht high where you could just sit idly by
It's been wrong since its inception. Evolutionary psychology is based on the idea that all behaviors are adaptations. Every single decision we make, according to EP, is rooted with a survival/replication motive. EP people push this false narrative with poorly designed if-then statements, and the research consists almost entirely of questionnaires. Surveys are the worst form of gathering data because people often give shitty answers, sometimes without even realizing it.

Evolution and adaptation are based on genetic drift, not conscious or unconscious decision making. Evolutionary psychology is based not on actual evolution (genetic drift) but rather the layman's idea of evolution (conscious or subconscious drive to something). There's a surprising amount of chance and randomness involved in actual adaptations and species evolution. PZ Myers explains it better than me:

http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2012 ... y-premise/

In relation to pickup, evolutionary psychology is a confirmation bias to the big three of anti-game (that looks money and status rule over all, and in the darkness bind them (extra parenthetical because it's awesome to use a Lord of the Rings quote)). In the case of this thread, some posters are suggesting that some men are able to display such high levels of the big three that women approach them and want the benefit of the big three for themselves and their offspring. Actual neuroscience studying how people react to stimuli, however, notes that we generally don't pay much attention to random people in our field of vision as opposed to constantly analyzing everyone around us. You are a piece of the background until you say or do something that gets her attention, and that's almost always a direct communication. You walk up to her and say "hi" to bring yourself into her focus. That's why an early goal in an interaction is to immerse her in the conversation and form that social bubble around the two of you. With that immersion, now instead of her seeing everything as the background and hearing everything as just noise, it's you, her, and everything as as background scenery and noise.
Terrific way of framing it.


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I have a feeling that Galist, the "woman", and dicemaster are related in some way. Then again I have been watching social justice warriors get obliterated along with feminists, and sovereign citizens on youtube all day..


They remind me of those kinds of people. No real substance behind what they say. As I quote one sovereign citizen "I wasn't driving, I was traveling officer, you can't prove I was driving"


Adios.

i'll read that link and see what it is about
You might, but you won't respond. Once you claimed some "fact" about living in NYC and I responded that it was far from the truth because i've lived there for 18 years, you changed your opinion. But I knew what I was dealing with after that. I still laugh because I still see Jackzero's fish out of water gif whenever i see you Galist. I guess people appreciate you bumping their posts at least and keeping it relevant :wink:
can you post the gif here? Forgot about that


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Gaullist is just the dumbest of the dumb. I stopped reading his posts ages ago, they just show up as a blank space in threads to my eye.


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Pretty much everytime I see him. :|
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i cant charge your mind nor can you mine.

but tell me please why do you prefer the HB10 over the below average 2?

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Pretty much everytime I see him. :|
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i cant charge your mind nor can you mine.

but tell me please why do you prefer the HB10 over the below average 2?

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^That's terrific.


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So you are content with just sitting there waiting for something to magically happen? If you want something, go and get it. Us men might be the chosen ones, but women choose those who are willing to take the initiative.

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So you are content with just sitting there waiting for something to magically happen? If you want something, go and get it. Us men might be the chosen ones, but women choose those who are willing to take the initiative.
These are the guys who fault women because they aren't knocking down their door to hangout. So rather than take responsilbity and make changes in their lives, they just so rather find reasons to not pursue.


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So you are content with just sitting there waiting for something to magically happen? If you want something, go and get it. Us men might be the chosen ones, but women choose those who are willing to take the initiative.
These are the guys who fault women because they aren't knocking down their door to hangout. So rather than take responsilbity and make changes in their lives, they just so rather find reasons to not pursue.

Exactly. Men acting like women isn't going to work. Once in awhile they might get that lucky break and a girl will open them, but it's silly. Why wait for something to happen ? It's like when I go to the clubs and watch these physically well fit dudes just think that their muscles will bring them all the pussy. Unless these girls know you through mutual friends they will not open you. I've watched these guys and they just sip on their little drinks and think standing at some corner will make girls come up to them. Doesn't work that way buddy. There's like 5 dudes like you in here and girls are dancing their asses off. They ain't worried about you like that .

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