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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:58 pm 
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hi Everyone I have been out of game for a while now as I have been dating my GF for 2 years. I am at a crossroads now and would like some input.

here is my take on everything and the long and short of it:

-i am 31 she is almost 29. i have slept with about 15 girls prior to her and her about 12 guys. we each had LTRs in our past

-we have incredible sex she is always horny and I cant keep up with her. she loves rough sex etc etc so in terms of getting what I want its great. i was concerned about this fact earlier on because i thought it could lead to cheating but i have come to terms with it and dont think it is an issue.

-she is incredibly in love with me and has always been severely infatuated with me since day 1.

-she is a hard worker and has an education and a decent job. she would make a good mother and has family values and is surrounded by her family constantly (portuguese have lots of extended family)

-she is independant and non needy, we have a great relationship because of that but she is starting to want more and more (commitment wise, living together, buying a house, starting a family etc)

-we have never lived together

-i love her BUT, she is not my IDEAL per say. what i mean is, sometimes i see a girl and she just blows me away because of her features- my type is a brunette, petite, feminine, tanned. whereas my GF is not that, she is light haired and a bit taller and less petite (slender) than I would like. HOWEVER, is this even something that should matter?? i dont know. in terms of personality she is great and complements mine, so really it is just her LOOKS that are not equal to my IDEAL.

-in terms of what I want in life, i dont think i want to be into my mid and late 30s running game. i would prefer to have a family. NOW if my lifestyle was that of a rockstar or bartender or something, then that would be different. but i am just a regular corporate guy so its not like I am meeting lots of hot girls or have access to them anyways. sometimes I wonder tho, if i DID have access, i may stray. i dont know.

what do you guys think? any input is appreciated. I have to make a decision soon because i can sense she is becoming impatient. she is the type who is not afraid of breaking up if that is what is best or if she senses that she is losing her time.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:27 pm 
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So her options are vast, and yours are narrow, so marriage is you means of narrowing that gap?
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and her about 12 guys.
Typically x2. just an fyi.

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-i love her BUT, she is not my IDEAL per say. what i mean is, sometimes i see a girl and she just blows me away because of her features- my type is a brunette, petite, feminine, tanned. whereas my GF is not that, she is light haired and a bit taller and less petite (slender) than I would like. HOWEVER, is this even something that should matter?? i dont know. in terms of personality she is great and complements mine, so really it is just her LOOKS that are not equal to my IDEAL.
Are you sure you're not suffering from a case of "the grass is greener"?

I get that you have a type, we all do. I still struggle to define whether it's blond or brunette. However I think that's not that relevant in the end.

Still I've been with what in the past I considered my ideal type. And it was awesome for a while. But when it comes down to what makes a serious relationship (especially one involving marriage and starting a family) worth it, I'd choose the attractive not my ideal type with an amazing personality over the my ideal type with lacking personality any day.

Ideally you'd have both, but realistically speaking looks are much easier to find and/or to shape than is a compatible well grounded personality. Weight can be lost, hair can be dyed, tans can be achieved. Not much you can do about body composure but the aforementioned are all things you can suggest. Maybe your girl always wanted to try that think dark hair.

So physical attractiveness is important - no doubt. However there's a fine line between going after what you want and being a bit too capricious. You're bordering that fine line.
Only you can know how attractive your gf is by comparison to your ideal.
I hate using numbers but for the sake of analogy, if your ideal is what you view as a 10 and your girlfriend is 8.5, from what you describe her, her personality easily boosts her to a 10+.

If however your girlfriend is a 5 or 6, then yes, you may want to consider your options.

What it comes down to is this. Do you feel like you're settling, or do you already own a 2016 Mercedes that provides all the functionalities you need, but you just think a BMW looks better although it's functionalities are unknown to you?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:31 pm 
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-we have never lived together
Do you guys live with your parents, or rent separate places? You might need to rent place together and live for a year or so before you put ring on her finger.


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Do you guys live with your parents, or rent separate places? You might need to rent place together and live for a year or so before you put ring on her finger.
Also yes. Absolutely yes to this.

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You're seeking the advice of the internet community, albeit that of a Pickup Forum to determine whether you should make a life changing decision such as marriage??

Sheesh.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 2:45 am 
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OP, look, this is a relationship. Its not a physics problem; laying out all these facts will lead people to give you advice on those facts, rather than the more important factor which is how you feel about it.

Someone here said personality > looks in a marriage. While that may be true, I still argue that its irrelevant in your case. You clearly 'arent feeling it' which is a problem if you are about to go into marriage. Marriage can wait. You dont want to be running game in your 30s??? What? Thats like a woman saying she doesnt want to still be dating when shes 21.

Anyway, I dont care what your reason for cold feet may be... if youre already hesitating youre probably not ready for it, in some way or another. People get married because they think thats what theyre supposed to do at a certain age, which is where the high divorce rate comes in. Dont repeat the mistakes others have made, make sure you are 100% in it. Also, realize that your mind may be misleading you here - it may not be her looks that are the problem, but instead, youre just losing attraction due simply to time. We all get bored of everything eventually. Some separation could also help to see where your feelings really lie (im not necessarily reccommending this, be careful with that one, but objectively speaking it would tell you something).


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:45 am 
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-we have never lived together

-i love her BUT, she is not my IDEAL per say. what i mean is, sometimes i see a girl and she just blows me away because of her features- my type is a brunette, petite, feminine, tanned. whereas my GF is not that, she is light haired and a bit taller and less petite (slender) than I would like. HOWEVER, is this even something that should matter?? i dont know. in terms of personality she is great and complements mine, so really it is just her LOOKS that are not equal to my IDEAL.

-in terms of what I want in life, i dont think i want to be into my mid and late 30s running game. i would prefer to have a family. NOW if my lifestyle was that of a rockstar or bartender or something, then that would be different. but i am just a regular corporate guy so its not like I am meeting lots of hot girls or have access to them anyways. sometimes I wonder tho, if i DID have access, i may stray. i dont know.
I'm 50 and divorced; you know what is coming next. Have you talked to your divorced uncles, grandather(s), and divorced male co-workers? Did you know that 70% of men your age do not marry because they see the cost-risk factor and how their older male family members were raked over the coals in the family courts? http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comm ... ever_will/

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara ... ot-married Captain save a who__ as in Mr. Big from "Sex in the City."

Are you prepared to forgo your own development, so she will pursue her own through you?

Are you ready to plunk down a bunch of money on the fairy tale wedding that could have been invested in IRA accounts, education, or professional tools?

You described her sensuality and not any talent or intellect that she brings. Did you look at her family closely, as she will ultimately become like her parents? The 5 areas of compatibility: values, intimacy, love style, relationship factors (extraversion, openess, flexibility, adaptability, problem solving skills).

When do you plan on evaluating her home making skills, since you have never lived together?

You described this woman's physical attributes. In the world of MGTOW and Villar's book "The Deceived Male" men who are duped into marriage do so because they are willing to give up all of their assets for a blowjob.

You know that I have to say this- If I had to do it over...no way.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:10 am 
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Have you even lived with her yet??? After living together for one year you will know your answer. People can be very different if you live together. Maybe you'll end up fucking hating her. Who knows.

Also , sounds like an abundance problem. You can get girls because of your corporate job? Whilst if she was to open her legs men will simply NOSEDIVE into it??

I honestly don't believe you should even THINK about marriage until you KNOW you can get other girls but WANT to stay with this girl. That's really key.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:12 pm 
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Stupid question. Go kill yourself is an advice in the same line with go marry her. You should decide and quess what, you will understand when you find the true partner for yourself and then you would not as this stupid question again bro.

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You're clearly a guy with high standards - somewhat of a perfectionist, but also somewhat risk-averse. You don't like to settle for what you feel may be second best, but how do you really know if what you have is "second best" or "best"? And how do you know if pass up this opportunity you will get any better in the future?

Sounds like she ticks many boxes logically - your head says "yes", but you're not feeling it in some ways - so your heart says "not sure". Part of you wants to find perfect woman, but you're getting older - and you're not sure if you'd be throwing away something really good.

You seem to be in a similar situation to me in some ways, give or take a few bullet points - see my post relationships/amazing-girlfriend-but-ca ... 98300.html - please correct me if I'm wrong :)

Here's a few things I've been thinking about so far.

I'm a scientific thinker and I like to solve my problems logically, sometimes maybe too logically :)

Have you read about this?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secretary_problem
That page goes into a lot of math and detail, but basically it describes meeting people one at a time, and how long do you reject people for before you should settle and be confident you've had the best probability of settling on the best person.

How much time did you spend dating women before you met her? Is she better than all the women you were with before her? How much time would you be willing to spend in future dating to find someone "better"?

What about the women who rejected you before you met her? Do you feel you have the ability and willingness and time to improve yourself so that you're able to fish from a better pool of women? If so, then that kinda invalidates the "secretary problem" to an extent, because you'll have better choices available to you in the future. There's always the risk that you won't improve tho, and won't be able to attract women more like your ideal - it's a risk to go down that road no doubt.

There were a lot of things I didn't do in the past in terms of pickup stuff and skills with women, so I feel like maybe if I tried different tactics in the future I would end up with a better pool of women to choose from.

Also, another thing I've been grappling with is, are a lot of her good qualities because she loves you so much? From the way you speak, it sounds like you might be a little bit "above" her in some respects, perhaps above her in looks. If that's the case, does she see you as such a great catch that she's willing to do anything for you? If you met a hotter women with more options, would she be as committed and as compliant as your current girlfriend?

As I said, it feels like you're in a pretty similar situation to me, and the above is some of what I've been considering. Please correct me if I'm wrong though! Hopefully, you will find some of this useful...


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