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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:22 pm 
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I was thinking to myself the other day as I steadily lose the weight that I have been getting laid while being 20 pounds overweight :lol: . I only realized this because I am getting back to the weight I was years ago and I am only doing this working out to look good for myself and to increase my sexual appeal.


I always thought back in the day that dudes that are shredded or look good without a shirt always got laid. As I become that dude I find myself laughing since I have been getting laid all this time without these things. And this isn't a looks matter thread, so I don't want yall starting a 20 page debate. Seen too many of those. It was just an aha moment I have had that just made me laugh about the whole idea.


So what was your :idea: moment during your journey ?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:48 pm 
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When I realized that once you get women thinking sexually they are usually down for anything. That's even if they aren't thinking those sexual thoughts about you, you can get that sexual energy pointed at you.

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When I realized that once you get women thinking sexually they are usually down for anything. That's even if they aren't thinking those sexual thoughts about you, you can get that sexual energy pointed at you.

Haha isn't it great. The female brain is pretty cool. It's like they relive those moments a hell of a lot more than the normal male brain does. They go through like all these processes and they start associating those feelings to you. Definitely a good :idea: .

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When a woman is 'Locked On' interested in you she will go to some pretty extreme measures to pursue you.

And if there is competition, she'll go to extreme lengths to out fuck, out cook, out gift, out please any and all comers.

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The best time to pull a girl home is near at the start.

As opposed to spending all night with them buying drinks and then they tell you they don't wanna come back...

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When I learned how important feels actually are for a woman I entered a whole new level of understanding.
That has to be one of my biggest ones. Things started going from 0 to 100 really fast since then.

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Hmm, maybe it's on what RC was saying. Giving a girl a martini of emotions always has them coming back for more. They get addicted to you. They like talking to you. As one girl put it recently to me "you just can't tell what's going to be coming out of your mouth"

Morning texts, goodnight texts, etc . Once you master emotion and visualization, that has opened alot of doors for me.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 12:31 am 
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When I realised and understood the difference between what women think they want, vs what really gets them going.

I still see girls on Facebook sharing romantic pics like "where are all the men like this?" when realistically they're all in the friendzone getting impatient and driving themselves insane while she's fucking a coke dealer. Lol.

A pretty big one happened recently, too. I kind of knew it but I'd never thought of it: men are more invested in women before they've had sex with them, while women are more invested in men after they've had sex with them. I think it was RC who said it, and it got me thinking for a while and looking back at old situations.

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Another aha moment was to find your niche. Every guy has a niche that they can take advantage of. Black girls absolutely love me. I am a hispanic guy and I do well with them. So, naturally, I am picking up a black girl every now and then.

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It's easier to find girls that like you and not fuck up then to try and get girls to start liking you. It's also worth it to put effort into your whole life so that your life becomes easier, rather than to put no effort in and wonder why everything is hard.


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It's easier to find girls that like you and not fuck up then to try and get girls to start liking you. It's also worth it to put effort into your whole life so that your life becomes easier, rather than to put no effort in and wonder why everything is hard.

Amen,

I would say majority of this forum threads are based on this.

Too many guys trying to fuck uninterested girls but then cling on to hope due to lack of options

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:21 pm 
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My first and second in-bar makeouts.

The first time I stumbled on making out with a woman I BEGAN realising that these woman want sexually stimulation as much as men do.

The second time I realised that it was replicable, that it wasn't a fluke, and that shit like this WAS possible.


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When I stopped caring about rejection because I can find other women. Aha! Great frame...


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If you're progressing while doing all the right things, I think it's actually rare to have an "ah-ha" moment. Most of what I've been through has been slow and steady progress.

I've only gotten those ah-ha moments after I've been doing something wrong for a long time, and one big one I can remember was after I had been doing Mystery Method for a couple years.

I was trying to follow Mystery's M3 model religiously, I tried to think like him, and I based attraction on social value. I tried so much to neg and DHV all the time, pump BT with chick crack, and used all of Style's stupid routines. I got laid sometimes, but it certainly wasn't consistent.

Then one day I observed a natural sexualizing SO MUCH. As a devout MM follower I stayed away from sexualization in fear of triggering ASD. MM is all about NOT telegraphing interest and coming in under the radar, after all. My ah-ha moment there was all about sexualization and it was about that time I hopped onto other, more effective methods like 60YOC and other sexualization-focused methods.

After I started using more sexualization-focused stuff, I got laid more often, more consistently, and a lot quicker. I guess the real ah-ha realization was to not be such a fucking pussy that's scared of expressing himself sexually.


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I don't know if I've had an aha moment tonight, but I was out with my SPAM for our farewell night as I'm moving out soon, and I made a point of approaching three women at a nearby table. I stood there saying nothing, or nothing of interest at least, and they barely acknowledged me even to the extent of being polite. Then I wandered back and told him "there's my parting gift to you. It can be done". He replied "there's no way in the world I would do that". I kind of looked at him like he had three heads. I remember two or three years ago feeling terrified to go out and approach random women, but I pushed myself to do it. Now I'm at a point where approaching random women and getting rejected barely affects my day and I find guys who feel differently odd to say the least. I was saying to him on the way home "that's my life, getting dissed and rejected by women" and I felt nothing but amusement about it. I think probably learning to treat rejection as meaningless is probably the greatest lesson anyone can learn, and one that the majority of guys never will.

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