Can't figure her out



Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 7 guests
Post new topic Reply to topic   Board index » Tools & Techniques of Game: Meeting, Attracting and Seducing Women » Relationships


Forum rules


Relationship Subforum Rules

1. Posts about how to get a girlfriend will result in a ban.


2. Posts about your ex-girlfriend will result in a ban.

3. Any other posts not related to your current girlfriend will result in a ban.



Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Can't figure her out
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 12:11 pm 
Offline
Ask a mod for a custom title
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:53 pm
Posts: 5428
Location: Romania
Quote:
Any guy who is an 8 can get away with eternal betaness when dating a 6.
So only truly attractive women are biologically inclined to steer away from weak men, while 6's are not?

_________________
I know my place. It's me on top of the world.

My in depth texting & dating guide.
There's no such thing as shit-tests.
How to keep a girl.


Top
   
 Post subject: Re: Can't figure her out
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:39 pm 
Offline
Ask a mod for a custom title

Joined: Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:34 pm
Posts: 3993
Quote:
Quote:
There can't be complete generalizations but if we are questioning if women disrespect men, then it can be certain that some do or have. Yes, not everything mentioned there is true. I'm probably not in the place to make comments based on my proximity to a girl who certainly was this way to me. Having broke up last weekend. However, it does happen.

Truly attractive women want an alpha, almost 100% of the time. When I get complacent, you can feel their mind spinning and see it in their eyes "is this man weak?". It's not really on purpose, it's just biological.

Men are the ones who usually get dumped, and mostly it's because of beta backsliding.


Any guy who is an 8 can get away with eternal betaness when dating a 6. But when you grab yourself a truly beautiful woman who knocks you out in bed and in general, you have to be the guy that she was initially attracted to more often than not.

Female-to-male attraction is a highly fluid thing. It's far more complicated, for the most part, relative to male attraction. That said a guy will often project what he thinks is attractive onto the woman he's interested in, and as a result make all sorts of errors based on that as he adjusts his behavior accordingly.

Women generally lose attraction towards a guy because of the way in which he conducts himself. Specifically if it becomes apparent that he's a door matt, or something resembling it.

It happens for a very good reason too,

For a woman to feel sexy, she needs to be in her feminine. If a male cannot afford her the psychological feeling of security for her to do so, she will not feel safe in being in her feminine. This is what PUAs often refer to as the male script to lead. You're doing things for her so she can relax and be in her feminine, the man, thereby can bask in her feminine energy. So when you speak of a guy who is an 8, getting away with 'poor behavior' with a 6, I would say your view is far too forgiving. She will drop him like anyone else, as her attraction to a large extent rests on her feelings of security in his presence.

A lot of female attraction is centred around how you 'make' her feel/the feelings you stimulate within her. For MOST women (the ones predominantly in their feminine), she needs that masculine energy as the yang to her yin.

Learn to tap into your masculine, and hold that energy, you will be attractive to a lot of women. At times it will be desirable to tap into your feminine - such as harnessing this energy to create, express, etc.. But for most women who are in their feminine, the prerequisite to attraction is that her suitor be mostly in his masculine.

You can feel when you're in your masculine just being mindful of what's going on in your body as you speak with different people. The masculine feels like that stoic tree, roots firmly planted in the ground, sure of one's self (though not rigid), brimming with confidence, and in control of the tempo of his interactions. The masculine instinctively seeks freedom and release (cr: David Daida). It penetrates just like the penis, and wants release.

The feminine will feel more dynamic/shifting. Allowing energy to go wherever it may, free-flowing, non-directive, not seeking any sort of outcome, and wanting to be FILLED with love. Like the vagina it wants to receive, to envelope, to take in and experience.


Top
   
 Post subject: Re: Can't figure her out
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:51 pm 
Offline
The Grand Puba
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:17 pm
Posts: 5962
Location: Los Angeles
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
There can't be complete generalizations but if we are questioning if women disrespect men, then it can be certain that some do or have. Yes, not everything mentioned there is true. I'm probably not in the place to make comments based on my proximity to a girl who certainly was this way to me. Having broke up last weekend. However, it does happen.

Truly attractive women want an alpha, almost 100% of the time. When I get complacent, you can feel their mind spinning and see it in their eyes "is this man weak?". It's not really on purpose, it's just biological.

Men are the ones who usually get dumped, and mostly it's because of beta backsliding.


Any guy who is an 8 can get away with eternal betaness when dating a 6. But when you grab yourself a truly beautiful woman who knocks you out in bed and in general, you have to be the guy that she was initially attracted to more often than not.

Female-to-male attraction is a highly fluid thing. It's far more complicated, for the most part, relative to male attraction. That said a guy will often project what he thinks is attractive onto the woman he's interested in, and as a result make all sorts of errors based on that as he adjusts his behavior accordingly.

Women generally lose attraction towards a guy because of the way in which he conducts himself. Specifically if it becomes apparent that he's a door matt, or something resembling it.

It happens for a very good reason too,

For a woman to feel sexy, she needs to be in her feminine. If a male cannot afford her the psychological feeling of security for her to do so, she will not feel safe in being in her feminine. This is what PUAs often refer to as the male script to lead. You're doing things for her so she can relax and be in her feminine, the man, thereby can bask in her feminine energy. So when you speak of a guy who is an 8, getting away with 'poor behavior' with a 6, I would say your view is far too forgiving. She will drop him like anyone else, as her attraction to a large extent rests on her feelings of security in his presence.

A lot of female attraction is centred around how you 'make' her feel/the feelings you stimulate within her. For MOST women (the ones predominantly in their feminine), she needs that masculine energy as the yang to her yin.

Learn to tap into your masculine, and hold that energy, you will be attractive to a lot of women. At times it will be desirable to tap into your feminine - such as harnessing this energy to create, express, etc.. But for most women who are in their feminine, the prerequisite to attraction is that her suitor be mostly in his masculine.

You can feel when you're in your masculine just being mindful of what's going on in your body as you speak with different people. The masculine feels like that stoic tree, roots firmly planted in the ground, sure of one's self (though not rigid), brimming with confidence, and in control of the tempo of his interactions. The masculine instinctively seeks freedom and release (cr: David Daida). It penetrates just like the penis, and wants release.

The feminine will feel more dynamic/shifting. Allowing energy to go wherever it may, free-flowing, non-directive, not seeking any sort of outcome, and wanting to be FILLED with love. Like the vagina it wants to receive, to envelope, to take in and experience.
Inb4 someone says "unless you're talking about 9's and 10's"

_________________
mpuaforum.proboards.com


Top
   
 Post subject: Re: Can't figure her out
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:51 am 
Offline
Dedicated Member

Joined: Thu Aug 02, 2012 10:20 pm
Posts: 613
Location: San Antonio
I think you guys are taking what staton said a little out of context. There are rules that generally apply (girls wanting a strong male), but depending on where you fall on the narrow # scale, you will behave differently towards other numbers.

What he said happened to the OP. OP was with a girl he wanted too much, which caused him to act in ways that would repel most people. When a guy is not invested in himself enough (low value) of course he is going to have trouble getting a girl of higher value. IE the 7 doing things that will repel the 9 or whatever. Same with a girl that if she know's she's higher value than she will do things differently than if you demonstrate you are just as valuable as she is.

On our very basic 0-10 scales of rating people, where people fall in their value affects how they act. 10s will treat guys/relationships in general a different way than 7 would. Of course it gets much more complex than this but in general a 10s worldview will differ from a 7s, starting with having WAY more options. A girl who's a 7 will tolerate more if she thinks she's with a valuable male. Just like a #10 male will not sweat losing almost any # girl. Many a fat girl has been aggressive attempting to court me. Do you see that behavior from 9-10s?

The more I read over the last few posts, the more I feel like you all said the same thing in different ways.


Top
   
 Post subject: Re: Can't figure her out
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:29 am 
Offline
Ask a mod for a custom title
User avatar

Joined: Thu Oct 13, 2011 1:53 pm
Posts: 5428
Location: Romania
Quote:
10s will treat guys/relationships in general a different way than 7 would.
They do fucking not. Can we please, PLEASE put this shit to rest already?

If these "10s" treat relationships/guys different than a "7" would, that's because said guys treat that "10" differently in the first damn place.
Quote:
Many a fat girl has been aggressive attempting to court me. Do you see that behavior from 9-10s?
Yes. I do. Because I don't put them on a pedestal for being attractive.

_________________
I know my place. It's me on top of the world.

My in depth texting & dating guide.
There's no such thing as shit-tests.
How to keep a girl.


Top
   
 Post subject: Re: Can't figure her out
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:04 am 
Offline
The Grand Puba
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:17 pm
Posts: 5962
Location: Los Angeles
Quote:
I think you guys are taking what staton said a little out of context. There are rules that generally apply (girls wanting a strong male), but depending on where you fall on the narrow # scale, you will behave differently towards other numbers.

What he said happened to the OP. OP was with a girl he wanted too much, which caused him to act in ways that would repel most people. When a guy is not invested in himself enough (low value) of course he is going to have trouble getting a girl of higher value. IE the 7 doing things that will repel the 9 or whatever. Same with a girl that if she know's she's higher value than she will do things differently than if you demonstrate you are just as valuable as she is.

On our very basic 0-10 scales of rating people, where people fall in their value affects how they act. 10s will treat guys/relationships in general a different way than 7 would. Of course it gets much more complex than this but in general a 10s worldview will differ from a 7s, starting with having WAY more options. A girl who's a 7 will tolerate more if she thinks she's with a valuable male. Just like a #10 male will not sweat losing almost any # girl. Many a fat girl has been aggressive attempting to court me. Do you see that behavior from 9-10s?

The more I read over the last few posts, the more I feel like you all said the same thing in different ways.
Here's the thing that you guys aren't getting. There are some of the guys here that say when you come across a 9 or a 10, don't treat them like a 9 or a 10 because you'll end up looking like every other guy. Us guys that are saying that 9's and 10's are the same as any other girl are automatically not treating them like 9's or 10's. This is the reason we can say what we want because we can express ourselves without falling all over them. It's like R.C said...you guys are treating them differently than you would any other girl, so you get worse results.

I also wish you guys would drop this shit too, but I get the feeling that it's an ego thing to be able to say that you get 9's and 10's so the shit will continue.

_________________
mpuaforum.proboards.com


Top
   
 Post subject: Re: Can't figure her out
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:14 am 
Offline
English Muffin
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:40 pm
Posts: 5689
Labelling a 10 instantly conveys that she is perfect and unobtainable, so you have lost before you have even said a compliment (hehehe)

I see it time and time again with people I know as well as this forum. They qualify themselves that they are not about quantity and they focus on 'Quality' topic instead....to remain super PUA status

You can have a conversation with them about lay-count and then they would focus on switching the topic about quality desperately and claiming they are a different level. There is a virgin I used to work with that was very selective with women and would always comment on their flaws. (Go figure)

Who gives a fuck? Do what you what you want to do in life. Whether it's quality, quantity or both. If you're a chubby chaser like Galist, who are we to judge?

'10's' eat sleep and shit just like the rest of us

_________________
USER HAS BEEN BANNED FOR REPEATEDLY IGNORING MOD WARNINGS AND MULTIPLE RULE VIOLATIONS


Top
   
 Post subject: Re: Can't figure her out
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:24 am 
Offline
Read My Book
User avatar

Joined: Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:08 pm
Posts: 5028
Website: http://www.EddieFews.com
Location: New York City
Quote:
I think you guys are taking what staton said a little out of context. There are rules that generally apply (girls wanting a strong male), but depending on where you fall on the narrow # scale, you will behave differently towards other numbers.

What he said happened to the OP. OP was with a girl he wanted too much, which caused him to act in ways that would repel most people. When a guy is not invested in himself enough (low value) of course he is going to have trouble getting a girl of higher value. IE the 7 doing things that will repel the 9 or whatever. Same with a girl that if she know's she's higher value than she will do things differently than if you demonstrate you are just as valuable as she is.

On our very basic 0-10 scales of rating people, where people fall in their value affects how they act. 10s will treat guys/relationships in general a different way than 7 would. Of course it gets much more complex than this but in general a 10s worldview will differ from a 7s, starting with having WAY more options. A girl who's a 7 will tolerate more if she thinks she's with a valuable male. Just like a #10 male will not sweat losing almost any # girl. Many a fat girl has been aggressive attempting to court me. Do you see that behavior from 9-10s?

The more I read over the last few posts, the more I feel like you all said the same thing in different ways.
There is another element here that you're not covering, and pardon me if it was covered in previous messages because I've only read the last couple post on this thread.

The concept of how a 9 or 10 will respond to you has a lot less to do with her perception on the world because of the attention she gets and more on her perception on YOU, because of the energy and frame you give off that reflects your position on her. A 9 or 10 will court a guy that see's them and perceives them the way he see's a 7. The issue is the entire rating system makes it damn near impossible for a guy to do that. There are fat girls that wouldn't court a guy either. They'll court a guy that sees them as a fat girl, but they wouldn't court a guy that saw them as the most beautiful girl in the world(as he saw a ten) and treated them as such.

7's may be a lot more willing to court you because you see them as 7's and may see yourself as something higher. And 10's are never willing to court you because you may see yourself as something lower and reflect that energy and treat them as such. There are 4's 5's, 6's, and 7's all over the first world who are dating some bum dude without a penny to his name that are mooching off them. And there are 8's 9's and 10's doing the same thing. Are less 8's 9's and 10's doing it? Absolutely. But I believe that is only because it is a lot more challenging mentally to see a girl thats an 8, 9, or a 10 in such a way that you'd feel she's worth that little. Just as there are 5's being beaten in their relationships who stay with the guy and never want to leave him and there are 10's who this is happening to as well. 5's and 10's have a similar experience, but only at different volumes. The 5 gets attention, but the 10 gets more. The 5 gets a few men to catch oneitis, but the 10 gets way more. It's tougher for a man to catch oneitis for a 5 than a 10 for sure because of his perception on the 5, but while a guy has oneitis they will pretty much respond in the same manner. Surely all the men making their "Relationship Post" on this forum aren't all dating women who are the same rating. Some are dating 5's some 6's some 7's and some 10's.. But ironically enough, their stories all sound the exact same.

How many 9's or 10's have you actually been with though? I think thats the bigger question. Or is this more a speculative opinion than an experienced one?

_________________
Need Coaching? For 1 on 1 Coaching via SPAM, Phone or Instant Messenger - Email: EddieFews@Gmail.com

Show Support, Buy The Book: 'The Secret Laws Of Social Wisdom - Click Here

http://www.EddieFews.com


Top
   
 Post subject: Re: Can't figure her out
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:40 pm 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader

Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:06 am
Posts: 2540
Quote:
10s will treat guys/relationships in general a different way than 7 would. Of course it gets much more complex than this but in general a 10s worldview will differ from a 7s, starting with having WAY more options. A girl who's a 7 will tolerate more if she thinks she's with a valuable male. Just like a #10 male will not sweat losing almost any # girl. Many a fat girl has been aggressive attempting to court me. Do you see that behavior from 9-10s?

You nailed it.

_________________
Pickup coach. PM for direct, simple coaching.


Top
   
 Post subject: Re: Can't figure her out
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:47 pm 
Offline
PUA Forum Leader

Joined: Tue Mar 31, 2015 3:06 am
Posts: 2540
Quote:
'10's' eat sleep and shit just like the rest of us

They do. But my favorite thing in the world is having a 10 look up at me with my dick in her mouth. There is a big, big difference. It's fucking hot, and as men, these kinds of images stay with us forever.

i can attract 7's and have them bake me cookies and do my laundry while I act beta. But I like a challenge, I like women I can have witty banter with, who can occasionally sling my bs back at me in a playful way, and who have unreal bodies and beautiful faces. Strong women who are also 9/10 in looks thrill me.

This is, perhaps, internal pedalistization (lol). But I really don't care. Life is short, and I'd rather have to occasionally game a ten and have her blow me consistently than have 7's.

_________________
Pickup coach. PM for direct, simple coaching.


Top
   
 Post subject: Re: Can't figure her out
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 11:48 pm 
Offline
Ask a mod for a custom title

Joined: Sat Jun 20, 2009 1:32 am
Posts: 3904
Quote:
I did bring closure to this, she initiated text the other day, we talked blah blah, I asked what her plans were last night, she had none. I invited her to come up and she agreed, but ended up flaking at the last minute.

I questioned what her intentions were, she said she likes hanging out with me, enjoys the fun we have together and really likes me but she wasnt ready for things to get serious and she knew I wanted serious, she thought that wasn't fair to me. when we first started hanging out she thought she was ready to be serious but recently things changed. I could tell things changed but failed to realize it.

Also explained she was recently in a long term relationship and she felt she needed to be single for awhile and thought I should go on that date I asked her about.

Long story short she's young (21) just got out of a LTR, wasn't ready for something serious not with me atleast and probably wants to explore/bang other dudes.

I really think I let my insecurities get the best of me, she is the most good looking girl I've been with and I felt that without that gf title she wouldn't stick around. That's probably about the point she started backing off.

I do appreciate the responses and conversation,anywy, I'm over it and I'm going to take this as a chance to better improve myself and start re-investing in me again.
I know there's many points on 9's vs 10's and being too "beta." Thing is, these chicks are human. They're complicated. They have their own shit, feelings, baggage, memories, goals.... sometimes these things dont align. She's young, just out of a relationship, ex stirring up feelings, new guy living a ways away. Sometimes its just a rebound thing. Someone can be attracted to you 100%...it doesnt mean they will magically forget that they've been looking for the single life for a while...or it doesnt mean that they will magically forget their baggage or other desires. Whatever you did out of insecurity, remember it and work on that. But remember, its just life...just being completely attractive to someone does not hypnotize them to forget everything else in their head. Some girls like the chase more than they will like you. Maybe getting this girl as your gf would mean you could only see her on the weekends. Would you have really wanted a rs like that? Work on the insecurities but realize that even if you're your best self, shit is not guaranteed.


Top
   
 Post subject: Re: Can't figure her out
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:04 am 
Offline
The Grand Puba
User avatar

Joined: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:17 pm
Posts: 5962
Location: Los Angeles
Quote:
i can attract 7's and have them bake me cookies and do my laundry while I act beta. But I like a challenge, I like women I can have witty banter with, who can occasionally sling my bs back at me in a playful way, and who have unreal bodies and beautiful faces. Strong women who are also 9/10 in looks thrill me.
Arch...you're in your 40s. You should be more mature to worry about acting "beta". There shouldn't be anything that women throw at you to make you see it as a challenge to your masculinity. If you're dating younger women it's either they have daddy issues, want a sugar daddy, or they prefer guys that are more mature and have their live's in order.

When any woman, no matter how you rate them, sees your potential, they are going to bake cookies, do laundry, and just about anything else to show that they are submissive to you...including look up at you with your dick in their mouth.

_________________
mpuaforum.proboards.com


Top
   
 Post subject: Re: Can't figure her out
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:43 am 
Offline
English Muffin
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:40 pm
Posts: 5689
Quote:
Quote:
'10's' eat sleep and shit just like the rest of us

They do. But my favorite thing in the world is having a 10 look up at me with my dick in her mouth. There is a big, big difference. It's fucking hot, and as men, these kinds of images stay with us forever.

i can attract 7's and have them bake me cookies and do my laundry while I act beta. But I like a challenge, I like women I can have witty banter with, who can occasionally sling my bs back at me in a playful way, and who have unreal bodies and beautiful faces. Strong women who are also 9/10 in looks thrill me.

This is, perhaps, internal pedalistization (lol). But I really don't care. Life is short, and I'd rather have to occasionally game a ten and have her blow me consistently than have 7's.

You make it sound like you're the only guy that has fucked hot women...

_________________
USER HAS BEEN BANNED FOR REPEATEDLY IGNORING MOD WARNINGS AND MULTIPLE RULE VIOLATIONS


Top
   
 Post subject: Re: Can't figure her out
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:43 am 
Offline
English Muffin
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:40 pm
Posts: 5689
Quote:
Quote:
'10's' eat sleep and shit just like the rest of us

They do. But my favorite thing in the world is having a 10 look up at me with my dick in her mouth. There is a big, big difference. It's fucking hot, and as men, these kinds of images stay with us forever.

i can attract 7's and have them bake me cookies and do my laundry while I act beta. But I like a challenge, I like women I can have witty banter with, who can occasionally sling my bs back at me in a playful way, and who have unreal bodies and beautiful faces. Strong women who are also 9/10 in looks thrill me.

This is, perhaps, internal pedalistization (lol). But I really don't care. Life is short, and I'd rather have to occasionally game a ten and have her blow me consistently than have 7's.

You make it sound like you're the only guy that has fucked hot women...

_________________
USER HAS BEEN BANNED FOR REPEATEDLY IGNORING MOD WARNINGS AND MULTIPLE RULE VIOLATIONS


Top
   
 Post subject: Re: Can't figure her out
PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:34 am 
Offline
MPUA Forum Addict

Joined: Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:03 am
Posts: 217
Quote:
I can attract 7's and have them bake me cookies and do my laundry while I act beta. But I like a challenge, I like women I can have witty banter with, who can occasionally sling my bs back at me in a playful way, and who have unreal bodies and beautiful faces. Strong women who are also 9/10 in looks thrill me.

This is, perhaps, internal pedalistization (lol). But I really don't care. Life is short, and I'd rather have to occasionally game a ten and have her blow me consistently than have 7's.
Cringed at this


Top
   
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic  Reply to topic  [ 105 posts ] 

All times are UTC


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

Can we be honest?

We want your email address. Let me send you the best seduction techniques ever devised... because they are really good.
close-link