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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:27 pm 
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People have a hard time with jealousy. Especially the guys. I have been training myself to let go of the jealousy aspect to truly reach polyamory status. Jealousy is useless to me since I am already having sex with the girl. Just one less emotion that i don't need that probably served a purpose back in the caveman days when it was a tribal circumstance.



I think guys are most likely to get into a monogamous relationship because of that one trait. They would rather reach exclusive status as fast as possible and get their "fantasy" girl off the market. It's an ego thing to be honest. That's why one of the favorite insults I hear from dudes is "i banged your girl" or "your girl is hitting me up" etc.


Guys get territorial like crazy. If I say hi to their chick, they start barking lol.
Women get territorial too. But when you agree to these open relationships, you put yourself at risk of losing the girl if she falls for another guy....and it could happen. Same for you.


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Women get territorial too. But when you agree to these open relationships, you put yourself at risk of losing the girl if she falls for another guy....and it could happen. Same for you

Losing someone to someone else can happen at any time, not just in open relationships.. hence all the get your ex girlfriend back posts and the my girlfriend/boyfriend is cheating posts. And I don't worry about losing anyone to anyone. I don't have expectations. I just enjoy the moments we do have. I don't have time for all the negativity.

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I wonder, Stoliar and HJ, if let's say you were in a relationship and decided to make it open. What if your girl was sleeping with 3 other guys and you were sleeping with 1 tops? Would that bode well for you?
Why would a PUA only be getting 1 other girl? Your question makes no sense, and could be turned around...

Moreover, it shouldn't matter. You're conflating sex with love, which is understandable considering society has also done so. If a person is getting the amount of sex and partners they want, and their partner is getting the amount of sex and partners they want... why should anyone care?

In fact, in polyamory circles there's a concept/emotion called compersion. Essentially it is being happy because your partner is happy. So if your girl is out getting gangbanged by the local Basketball team and comes home super happy, you'd be happy for her.
People have a hard time with jealousy. Especially the guys. I have been training myself to let go of the jealousy aspect to truly reach polyamory status. Jealousy is useless to me since I am already having sex with the girl. Just one less emotion that i don't need that probably served a purpose back in the caveman days when it was a tribal circumstance.



I think guys are most likely to get into a monogamous relationship because of that one trait. They would rather reach exclusive status as fast as possible and get their "fantasy" girl off the market. It's an ego thing to be honest. That's why one of the favorite insults I hear from dudes is "i banged your girl" or "your girl is hitting me up" etc.


Guys get territorial like crazy. If I say hi to their chick, they start barking lol.

jealousy comes from the subconscious, and could be trained out by logic

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jealousy comes from the subconscious, and could be trained out by logic

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jealousy comes from the subconscious, and could be trained out by logic[/quote]

Gee...I should have mentioned that..


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People have a hard time with jealousy. Especially the guys. I have been training myself to let go of the jealousy aspect to truly reach polyamory status. Jealousy is useless to me since I am already having sex with the girl. Just one less emotion that i don't need that probably served a purpose back in the caveman days when it was a tribal circumstance.



I think guys are most likely to get into a monogamous relationship because of that one trait. They would rather reach exclusive status as fast as possible and get their "fantasy" girl off the market. It's an ego thing to be honest. That's why one of the favorite insults I hear from dudes is "i banged your girl" or "your girl is hitting me up" etc.


Guys get territorial like crazy. If I say hi to their chick, they start barking lol.
Women get territorial too. But when you agree to these open relationships, you put yourself at risk of losing the girl if she falls for another guy....and it could happen. Same for you.
Where most guys fail is that have these 'open relationships' but don't actually meet new girls because it is easier to stay in with Netflix N 'chill' with the easy option.

If you're going to be in a poly relationship, it is mandatory to still have abundance. Rich people could easily retire on their money but they are surrounded by abundance of it and are always working on something. That way, if something should happen, they have backup income that will support the lifestyle.

I was in a situation with a girl for 3 years and she knew that I slept with numerous women. She hooked up with 2 guys total but that was her choice and I did not judge her or feel insecure about it because she is allowed to have her cake and eat, too

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Women get territorial too. But when you agree to these open relationships, you put yourself at risk of losing the girl if she falls for another guy....and it could happen. Same for you.
Like I said before, on average women start to lose sexual interest in a guy after three years. So it's up to you, "risk" losing her by having an open relationship or lose her anyway after a few years, or marry her and have a sexless marriage.

I'll take the "risk" of an open relationship.


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Like I said before, on average women start to lose sexual interest in a guy after three years. So it's up to you, "risk" losing her by having an open relationship or lose her anyway after a few years, or marry her and have a sexless marriage.

I'll take the "risk" of an open relationship.

And men don't lose sexual interest? If the wife gains a lot of weight, if she stops putting in effort, what do you think will happen? Unconditional love?


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Like I said before, on average women start to lose sexual interest in a guy after three years. So it's up to you, "risk" losing her by having an open relationship or lose her anyway after a few years, or marry her and have a sexless marriage.

I'll take the "risk" of an open relationship.

And men don't lose sexual interest? If the wife gains a lot of weight, if she stops putting in effort, what do you think will happen? Unconditional love?

Men are visual beings. Stop with this whole guys don't go after fatties. There are guys who do and all power to them. But i can't force myself to be sexually attracted to someone because it doesn't work that way. This pickup forum is for men to get the girl they want. If it happens to be a "fatty" then I haven't really seen someone on here discourage them. The dick/heart what it wants. No one on this forum is going to support your move for advocating for the unattractive women. We all want attractive women, whatever it means to the individual. If that sounds "deameaning" then get a sex change and join the team because that's how it's always been, even in the face of political correctness. It works both ways, no women ever talks about sexing up the dude in the corner/the bottom of the social ladder. And when they do, it's usually in reference to them being such a good match for someone else other than them. "Oooo you would make the perfect boyfriend" is a common line used by women to guys in the friendzone.

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I think it depends on the person, I know guys and girls who can't help themselves and cheat nearly every chance they get, while on the other hand I have a few female friends that are serial daters and don't cheat but are quick to break up and move on over and over, and I have a couple friends that are just married.

It's just preference in my opinion, to each's own. Just because a guy is top dog and he's going out slaying it to epic proportions while he's single doesn't necessarily mean he's going to hooking up behind his girls back if he's made a commitment. However I wouldn't be surprised if there was a correlation as the high high counts are more likely to be men with sexual addictions and real sex addicts would likely be more compulsive about sex and have more trouble enacting self control.


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jealousy comes from the subconscious, and could be trained out by logic[/quote]

Gee...I should have mentioned that..


No wonder Jackzero trolls you lol.[/quote]

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I think it depends on the person, I know guys and girls who can't help themselves and cheat nearly every chance they get, while on the other hand I have a few female friends that are serial daters and don't cheat but are quick to break up and move on over and over, and I have a couple friends that are just married.

It's just preference in my opinion, to each's own. Just because a guy is top dog and he's going out slaying it to epic proportions while he's single doesn't necessarily mean he's going to hooking up behind his girls back if he's made a commitment. However I wouldn't be surprised if there was a correlation as the high high counts are more likely to be men with sexual addictions and real sex addicts would likely be more compulsive about sex and have more trouble enacting self control.

I am starting to come to the conclusion that it's whatever works best for you. Some people are serial monogamist going through 1-3 years of monogamy and then moving on to the next one. Interesting. I should have realized that high lay count could also mean that the person is just a sex addict or they have an addiction to sex.

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I think either way, whether you're monog or not, you need some emotional intelligence and sit down and figure out why you prefer what you do. Are you monogamous because you're afraid of being alone or its what society tells you? Are you poly because you have sexual addiction or chase validation through new conquests? You may be neither, but my pt is whatever you do make sure its coming from a healthy place. Too many times people dont know, and they will say "I just like variety" or "you're supposed to get married" while overlooking internal issues that will appear years later.


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Like I said before, on average women start to lose sexual interest in a guy after three years. So it's up to you, "risk" losing her by having an open relationship or lose her anyway after a few years, or marry her and have a sexless marriage.

I'll take the "risk" of an open relationship.

And men don't lose sexual interest? If the wife gains a lot of weight, if she stops putting in effort, what do you think will happen? Unconditional love?
Go back and read my post. I specifically said women lose interest before men do on average. If the woman gets fat, sure he might lose interest faster... but so what? What is even your point with this? I'm telling you that I don't believe humans are monogamous, so if you think men lose interest too, well... yeah. Ok.

Although you can also be interested in more than one person at a time. You can love and find a woman sexy and still want to nail the hot barista, and a woman can be with a man for years and still find him sexy and still want to nail the hot male barista too.

Serious question time: Are you just trying to keep an argument going? You seem all over the place at this point, like you have no point whatsoever but you're trying to take a counter position to everything we say.


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I think it depends on the person, I know guys and girls who can't help themselves and cheat nearly every chance they get, while on the other hand I have a few female friends that are serial daters and don't cheat but are quick to break up and move on over and over, and I have a couple friends that are just married.
One thing I did find interesting is a coworker of my ex's. Basically, she was hooking up with the lead brogrammer who was engaged. So she was clearly OK with cheating, being the other woman and sharing a guy. My ex at one point suggested maybe the guy had an open relationship... the girl thought that was disgusting.

I honestly have no idea how cheating is ok, but an open relationship is disgusting... lying makes it cleaner somehow? Ugh.


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