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Dragula
PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:28 am 
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I used to think asking girls if they have boyfriends or not was lame but now I think it's a great thing to ask in my opinion and experience.

I think asking a girl if she is single is a great thing to ask. Put's pressure on her (forcing her hand) and definitely inserts yourself in a good frame as you talk to her, if you have done it quite a few times you can tell or not if she is doing the robot response of 'I have a boyfriend' and you will be able to call her out with a smirk that says 'LOL bull shit'

This video of Steve Jabba explains all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Koqgqzjk-c8

Asking this question in a situation where there are customers behind you, so you have no choice but to get to the point is pretty efficient I think

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Has he approached her or just paid for items? Can't say she's wasting his time if he hasn't tried yet.
Either way she's either interested or she's not - since she's seen him a handful of times. Figuring this out in the most straightforward manner is what I suggest.

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Has he approached her or just paid for items? Can't say she's wasting his time if he hasn't tried yet.
Either way she's either interested or she's not - since she's seen him a handful of times. Figuring this out in the most straightforward manner is what I suggest.
Wrong. Women will see guys as physically attractive but won't necessarily be interested because of that like guys are. However, if you approach and intrigue them that gives you an advantage and grab their interest. If you give them a reason to disqualify themselves before you can creating interest you're just being an idiot because they will take what you give them.

So yes, either she's interested or not...but that doesn't mean he can't create that interest. If he doesn't have that ability, then your straightforward route will make it easier for her to reject him.

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Asking if she's single gives her an out without deciding if she's interested yet. Some girls get approached so much it's routine to try to turn a guy down before he gets started. Best not to ask.
She would have decided if she's at least mildly interested ages ago - especially with this guy who she's seen several times before.

Maybe some guys don't value their time, but I wouldn't waste a second on borderlines, mind-gamers or other weirdos.
several times a day :shock:

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In PUA-Universe, the topic of boyfriends does seem to send waves that destroy the very fabric of reality.

Back in our universe... the rationale behind asking is pretty simple. I'm offering advice from the perspective of someone looking to meet a quality woman, not sleep with someone for shits and giggles a few times.

Yeah, ask if she's single. And with good reason. She's either interested or she's not. Wasting your time on a sort-of-kinda-borderline is not a good idea. Given that you're trying to avoid oneitis - you're also subscribing to the idea that there's "other fish in the sea" - so bothering with anyone not at least somewhat interested in you is a waste of your time. Period. But wait, there's more: any response other than "yeah, I'm single" is basically a red flag, or a boatload of red flags.

Let's look at the basic scenarios of how she would respond:

1) I'm single (true) - she's interested = green light. Not rocket science.

2) I'm not single (lie) - she's playing games. Why in the hell would you want to get involved in this? She's either not interested or messed up. Man up and move on.

3) I'm not single (true) - she's taken. Does it really matter if it's serious or not? Are you really going to get involved in this mess? Whip out the "powerful 'boyfriend destroyers?" If it's not serious, you can always reconnect with her in the future when she's available.
I like the idea behind this of polarizing to gauge interest. However interest is dynamic -- my current girlfriend was completely neutral when we first met but now her interest is sky high. Current circumstances will affect her interest (e.g. if her pet just died or she just broke up with her ex), often things beyond our control, so a woman on the fence could become highly receptive otherwise. But I do like the idea of polarizing her to ascertain interest.
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I think asking a girl if she is single is a great thing to ask. Put's pressure on her (forcing her hand) and definitely inserts yourself in a good frame as you talk to her, if you have done it quite a few times you can tell or not if she is doing the robot response of 'I have a boyfriend' and you will be able to call her out with a smirk that says 'LOL bull shit'
Oh, interesting, I think if the person doing it is well calibrated, it could work really well. What have women said when you called her out on it?
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I think asking a girl if she is single is a great thing to ask. Put's pressure on her (forcing her hand) and definitely inserts yourself in a good frame as you talk to her, if you have done it quite a few times you can tell or not if she is doing the robot response of 'I have a boyfriend' and you will be able to call her out with a smirk that says 'LOL bull shit'
Oh, interesting, I think if the person doing it is well calibrated, it could work really well. What have women said when you called her out on it?

They can see my squinty facial expression that conveys to them 'yeah, he didn't buy that'.

You can disregard and continue to 'Game' and then go for the number like how you normally would but I really like it in terms of creating tension and pressure that you're not small talking to her. You are 'chatting her up' which I am sure you will agree is a better dynamic for a solid interaction with a possibility of a future meet (If she likes you and is truly single)

This small talk shit that 99% of day gamers do, it just leads to MANY flakes and they are hoping to 'get lucky' - Force their hand

I do the same with online-game. A lot of girls where I'm living put 'Just looking for friends' in their profile, so I tell them that I am meeting up for the romantic sense only. If they pussy foot around, then I move on.

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Do you ever exchange any conversation with her or do you just get your groceries and go?

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Do you ever exchange any conversation with her or do you just get your groceries and go?

Nope. Only "thank you," "have a nice day" with a friendly smile. Somehow it looks like she likes me though. She looks a bit shy but amused, kind of.
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I like the idea of getting quickly to the point, and getting a straight yes or no.
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I'm all for the "Are you single" line... as always, your energy, intention, eye contact, tonality and way that you ask the question is the most important thing.
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I like the idea of getting quickly to the point, and getting a straight yes or no.
I wouldn't look at things so black and white when it comes to seduction.

The reason to ask if she's single is to set the frame "I'm interested in you sexually, how are you feeling about me right now? Is there anything that's going to come between me seducing you?" and you will always get some sort of reaction from her.

The way that she reacts and the answer she gives will also give you information about what her situation is and also how she feels about you making a small advance towards her in that moment. If you can use your social and emotional intelligence well to her response, then you can then use that information to continue with the rest of your seduction in a calibrated way.

An example - "So are you single right now?"... Her response (Seems like she gets a little frustrated) "Well my love life is a little complicated at the moment"... BINGO... Now you know a little more about what you're working with.

Another example but as an assumption - "So I'm taking it you're single right now"... Her response "What gives you that idea?" You "Well you're sat down with a charming guy that you just met in the club and you seem to be pretty good with the flirting"... Continue from there...
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