When PUA's offer their Alpha vs. Beta talk and the hard wiring nonsense, they call it "Evolutionary Psychology," without offering any research to support their contentions.

If you have any research to show how sex is not traded for economic advantage by women, cite to a book that you read and own. Warren Farrel in "Why men are the way they are" is crystal clear on that matter, as are Friedan and de Beauvoir.

I lost interest in you. Sorry.

This isn't going anywhere, I m going to go talk to other people, but I wish you good luck in your future endeavours in finding somebody to talk to who actually gives a fuck.

How about real life experience? I don't trade my resources for sex. Sociology and psychology are two different animals in the same family. The guy that's trying to attract women at a sociological level is going to lose to outside forces when it comes to seduction. The guy that operates at a psychological level works at an emotional level. Sociology doesn't override an emotion.

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In other words, you have no authority for your contentions. There is no substitute for a formal education. We tell other PUA's to constantly improve themselves. Read books. We all need to. The most important books that PUA's can read are those on gender socialization. Examples, Berger, John, "Ways of Seeing,"; French Marilyn, "My Secret Garden," Garfinkle, et. al, "Gender Ethnomethodology," Farrel, Warren, "Why men are the way they are," Bergner, John, "What women want," Villar, Ester, "The Deceived man," and anything we can be Friedana and de Bouvoir.

No substitute for formal education?

I hold several degrees in psychology, at bachelors and masters level. Most of the stuff was worth very little. Where I learned about life was AFTER formal education, as in experientially.

You're too stuck on academes which led to my initial impression of you being a neophyte psych (or social science) student. Nobody really cares about the theories you regurgitate. A lot of them are full of holes anyway.


"you have no authority for your contentions" <--thinly veiled inferiority complex disguised quite poorly through verbose language


Actually I am a bit of an authority of sorts being a psychotherapist and all...

Women exchange sex for material advantage. Warren Farrel, et. al., and de Bouvoir have addressed that. Unless you are a woman, you would not be able as a man to exchange your sexuality for anything material.

These are not rational thoughts as they are not supported by any authority or research, " The guy that's trying to attract women at a sociological level is going to lose to outside forces when it comes to seduction. The guy that operates at a psychological level works at an emotional level. Sociology doesn't override an emotion." The entire PUA exercise is one in which some a priori and extemporaneous tactics are used to cut through gender socialization. The PUA community goes as far as to call it "the hamster." The hamster is the gender socialization which the sociologists have dissected in volumes.

Your neurotic anxiety about being challenged to cite authority has blinded you such that you forgot what this threads addresses- the OP's quandry about what to do with a woman distancing herself- such that you are making empty statements not tied to any formal school of thought, "Sociology doesn't override an emotion."

Good, cite your authority. As for my vocabulary, cite to the DSM.

I'm sorry...I'm not like N2 and only have a bachelors in psychology and my masters is in marketing. My formal education in both fields has kind of taught me to appeal to people's emotions because if they are normal people will react to them regardless of social norms. You can use all the $2 words you want, nothing is going to change that.

I do remember the OP's original quandary and responded to it and then I responded to your ridiculousness.

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lol

Good, if you indeed have a degree in psychology demonstrate it by citing authority. No person of advanced education would assert hatred of learning, "You can use all the $2 words you want, nothing is going to change that." Thus far, you have not made single comment (coherent or otherwise) regarding couple's counseling or gender roles, supported by any authority. Your statement, "appeal to people's emotions," is the opposite of reasoning and is irrelevant to the OP's concern regarding a crumbling relationship.

My suggestions are not ridiculous as you are interested keenly in engaging me. My suggestions that the OP communicate openly with the woman and to be aware that he is subject to having his resources drained by opportunists are matters that you have not addressed or can address with any authority. In fact, you have not addressed them at all except to call them "ridiculousness" ; that is what psychologists call deflecting. You should know that since you allege having a degree in psychology.

Jack apart from ignoring the stupid, is there a way to block-out people on this forum so their posts don't show?

Why quote a source when I can give you real life experience? I've had sex with lots of women without giving them any resources in exchange. Most of it was because of creating basic emotional connections.

I've also had one night stands...no resources exchanged for sex there.
Sex with women I've met on vacations....no resources exchanged for sex on those.
Threesomes with ex girlfriend and other girls...no resources exchanged for sex in any of those.

I can keep going with real life experience while you press your nose in a book. I get it it...your in your fifties and have been burned by a woman (maybe women) and because your reading theories and they reflect your relationship history, your taking them as being true. Theories are proven wrong all of the time but there are the die hard academics that hold onto them and try to invalidate the reasoning that caused the theory to be invalidated. You can quote all the books you want...but when you can explain why my real life experiences are different, I'll be ready to listen.

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Personally, I think he's bitter from a relationship and never got closure. He needs this.

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No I didn't ask about the motivation behind his behavior, rather how to block someone.

These statements are irrelevant to the OP's concern that a woman is pulling away from him and my suggestions to him, a) that he use the basic suggestion of couple's counseling to discuss the distancing without the accusatory "you" statement and b) to be aware that he may be attracting the opportunists, aka gold diggers. I supported my evaluations and advice with authority.

Now, we turn to your last statements. You aredeflecting when you write, "You can quote all the books you want...but when you can explain why my real life experiences are different, I'll be ready to listen." A priori observations and Comptian positivism (what I see must be all there is) are not formal thought. We conduct research to gain depth of insight and to systematically gather evidence. "You can quote all the books..." is an admission of not having any formal study. No person with a formal education promotes hatred of learning. Descarte's "Meditations" and the example of the wax are the reason that we study at all- to the know the nature of something.

You claim to be a psychologist. Address the observations and cite your authority. You have cited zero authority thus far. Your personal claims have zero significance.