we are here as students of SEDUCTION.
so we automatically somethings:

1.the compliment is being used to for more than just a mere greeting, we trying to work her.

2. we would assume the women look good.

its easy for me a 6 to get a 2 to 4, i just gotta ask for the number

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This is why I said in the very beginning to apply your own morals and motives. Not every guy comes here trying to "work" women. The best compliments always come from a genuine place, and as R.C alluded to, she deserves to receive that compliment.

If you want to keep asking 2 and 4's for their numbers, keep doing it because it's easy. I'm telling you that you can get hotter women if you take a step back and rework how you approach them. Quit jumping in feet first and take the old bull mentality.

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HAHAHAH!

i dont take them even though i know they're easy pickings.
i guess you're kinda right. sometimes i talk to women, no compliments, without seeking to work.

im man enough to you have a point

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So if a guy is unattractive, for better results, I'm assuming her should be conveying high value in some other way, and he should compliment on something more to do with a good quality he possesses, then from there he can compliment her looks?So like a stylish guy complimenting on her style, which she will accept because you are stylish, then that kinda makes it easier to compliment other things? Could this be like qualifying on non physical attributes first before complimenting the phsyical ones?

I think he explained it pretty well before neo.

If you're a manager at a company and the Junior employee compliments your managing skills, it may be perceived as him sucking up to you.
On the other side of the spectrum if the CEO pays you the same compliment it will be perceived in a different light. You'll feel proud.

That's not to say you have to be good looking to compliment a hot girl. It just means in my opinion that you should never approach it from an underling mindset. As an example, a guy that pedestals women off their looks will always place her value above theirs before words are even spoken, and consequently his interaction will reflect that.

His compliments will be met with resistance and skepticism.

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the first part of this makes sense to me.

how many compliments do you want to give?

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i think to women, especially hot ones, they feel anything out of a guys mouth is an attempt to get them.

were I an higher up in an organization, and a subornate complimented me, i'd probably see it has sucking up.

personally i feel a woman gets thousand compliments a day, giving her another, even if its a unique, is just another compliment.

you said it yourself if the compliment comes from an underling mentality its no good. but the woman cant tell your mentality, only thing she could do is based your actions on the past usually actions/ intentions of other guys before you.

your absolute value must be higher

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i think to women, especially hot ones, they feel anything out of a guys mouth is an attempt to get them.

were I an higher up in an organization, and a subornate complimented me, i'd probably see it has sucking up.

personally i feel a woman gets thousand compliments a day, giving her another, even if its a unique, is just another compliment.

you said it yourself if the compliment comes from an underling mentality its no good. but the woman cant tell your mentality, only thing she could do is based your actions on the past usually actions/ intentions of other guys before you.

your absolute value must be higher

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this is one of the reasons i like being here, we come up with theories / ideas/ thoughts and put them through testing fires, seeing if the hold up

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This is true in a sense, but at the same time a woman would welcome the "right" man to attempt to get them. Don't think that because a woman is beautiful doesn't mean that she doesn't want a guy to approach her. They are still sexual beingsThis is an odd statement coming from a guy that says that he doesn't compliment women. A lot of times people think themselves out of doing what works because they try to find reasons why it won't work. Instead of saying "I feel" try it out a few times, come back and give some examples of what you did and we can figure out why it did or didn't work.I'm not saying that any man should hide his intentions. That leads to getting nowhere except an orbiter status. I'm a firm believer in making your intentions known.I think I'm going to step away from using the word value when it comes to men approaching women because it causes too much comparison between the man and the woman. Instead I'm going to start saying a man should have a high self worth.Truthfully, I wrote this post coming from my personal experiences. It has been put through the testing fires and absolutely holds up. I'm sure that someone will say that maybe there's some other factors or that there are better ways to go. I just wrote it because of the myth that men shouldn't compliment women until she's done something to earn it.

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The way I view complimenting is this:

If you use compliments to get her to like you, then she will not like you unless you have some other values so she can compromise with

If you compliment her when she is already into you, it's not going to really mess up the interaction unless you abuse it;

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Oh yeah I get that 100 percent. My bad jack for some reason I read gsllist post as if you're not attractive you won't get a good response from complimenting her looks and I thought that's what you were disagreeing with. Was confused because sounded different to original post.

the first part is common sense, even hotest 10 has a guy whose ass she's willing to toss, so that goes without saying.

some women get dressd up nice and pretty and come outside but something who doesnt have high value in her eyes, she 'll act annoyed.

2. not complimenting her, i don't think, will hinder my chances of getting her

3. the intention part is a misunderstanding on your part or its a value to express what i was trying to say

4. selfe esteem? thats kinda interesting. that remains me of a talk i had with a friend about substantial confidence and false confidence.

i still feel value is the word

5. i wont argue the last point

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I'm not here to argue with you or force you to try to do something that you don't want to do. If you've done what I've laid out and can say that what I'm talking about is bullshit, then I'm happy to hear why you say that. If not, you're feelings on the subject is actually irrelevant because you have no real perspective. There are a lot of guys on here that have real life experience and they tend to agree with what I'm saying. Get the real life experience so you can have a real life opinion.

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