Jesus Maria, thought you were better than this. I ' ll be completely blunt because you got out of hand and you felt insulted for hearing the harsh truth thrown at your face which made you firing back unjustified shots and then starting to ignore as a way to avoid reality. For me you are the person who finds excuses at failure and blames everyone else for their problems in life but for himself. "If you would be kicking daily the one person who brought you the most troubles you would be in a lot of pain"
5 years in the forums and you have been:
- Dating guys both much lower look wise that people felt pity for you. You wasted the best years of your life and now your "Sexual Market Value" at 34 is dropping! Make no mistake about it, this is a universal truth and you do not seem to recognize it but if you reach your late 30's and start being depressed about your dating life then don't blame anyone else.
- Out of touch with reality, chasing that one guy who was ignoring you for the good part of the last 3 years (oh yes I remember the threads in 2015) with the mentality of "every time he was asking you to jump, you would respond with 'How high'?"
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also joining a pua forum doesn't necessarily mean you have pua skills or have any idea about game.
Yes that is why the majority of the new members are new to dating and relationships and ask for advice. After reading a number of threads, you know from which guy to listen the advice from, which one to read and think about what they said and which ones to completely ignore. 5 years in the forum you would have been able to recognize who those people in this forum are.
Hint: Some of them have commented here already. Another hint is that there is correlation between the number of the posts a person has on this forum, the experience they have and quality of advice they give. Even though there is plenty of experienced guys and less number of posts, if you have a slight sense of judgment you can figure it out.
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You can assume whatever you want about me. The truth is that you can't help me on how to steal this guy from his gf. You know nothing about how girls game a guy. Even the ones who don't do anything and expect a guy to approach them have a game.
1) Listen at you. I admit I am not the most ethical person here and I wouldn't mind to sleep with someone who would be cheating but I would definitely not take them seriously for something more or trust them that they would not do the same in the future. However it is a whole different intention to "steal this guy from his girlfriend". What is your purpose to "Steal" this guy apart from fucking him. Because so far in this thread you just mentioned about how hot he is and nothing else. Would you want to be in a relationship with someone when the whole beginning of the interaction was based on cheating?
2) No we can not "help you" if the guy is not attracted to you. Maybe a better help would be to respond to those spam messages you see on youtube how to make black magic spell for someone to fall in love with you and get in touch with the guru in India or Africa. Who knows.. Maybe a Nigerian prince could swipe you from your feet in the meantime and forget all about that guy.
I can generalize that for most men there is few different categories of attraction for us starting from higher to lower:
1) Rating 9-10: Very attracted to a woman physically and intellectually that we could see having a long term relationship with her. Willing to put all sorts of effort to get this woman.
2) Rating 8-9: Very attracted to a woman physically (not intellectually) that would interest us to have as long sex partner. Willing to also put all sorts of effort to get this woman.
3) Rating 6-7: Attracted to a woman physically that would make us put some effort to sleep with her.
4) Rating 5: Not really attracted to her and would not put effort into her if you have other options.
5) Rating 4: Not attracted. Only bang when really horny or desparate.
6) Rating under 3: Not consideration whatsoever of sleeping with her unless you are one of the few in earth the species must survive.
I don't know how you look in real life. All I know is that
-the guy is really hot, younger than you, personal trainer.
- has already an annoying controlling girlfriend (which would make it a hustle for him to even chase a really hot girl)
- considering all the games you played, you are not worth the trouble.
I 'd say his attraction for you is borderline 5. If you really really want to fuck him by all means take Neo's advice and invite him over to your place for "drinks", during daytime when his girlfriend would not be so suspicious and he would have some time to fuck you properly before his phone starts blasting.
Even if he had been single, he likely wouldn't put any effort for you. If you managed to bang him a few times, you would have been disappointed and obsessed if he would be losing interest and finds a hotter girl and you would be writing it all about it here in the forum.
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Also don't take out on me any frustration you have with women of your life!
If you have spare switches for emotions to lend everyone here it would be handy. Most of us maybe could do with some :p
No one here is taking the frustration they have with women in their lives on you. The people who in your opinion "gave you shit" they just gave you a hard dose of reality. These are in fact the people who DO NOT HAVE frustration with women and are doing well themselves. They are just fed up of listening to bullshit, excuses and people who are out of touch with reality. People who are not objective, get emotional and offended when they face the truth, people who are in denial.
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You weren't much of a help anyway.
That was one of the most realistic and blunt advice you had been given. Who was much of a "help" anyway? Unless you expect us to get a truck and kidnap this guy and keep him as your sex slave.
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You're in a pua forum where phrases such as "bf destroyer" and methods on how to get the woman of your dreams from someone else is part of the acceptable.
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This was part of the PUA community from the beginning stages and I have not seen ANYONE of the respectable members here who understand the bigger picture to be even discussing about this, never mind giving advice on the matter.
Agreed that we are not here to discuss about morals but you do not get the spirit of this community. It is not only about pick up but also finding out how to see your shortcomings, facing some harsh truths, getting tough love and improving your self to the point where you are in a position of being able to give advice to others rather than asking for it. Maria you can not see your own shortcomings. How can anyone help you?
Move on or start being friendly again with the guy, say hi, talk to him casually to warm him up (cause out of ego he might reject your proposal) and then invite him over to your place.
Peace
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