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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 6:37 pm 
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Then follow advice you're given?

Please quote someone on this forum who suggested for you to get into a relationship with an extremely low quality woman?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:01 pm 
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Then follow advice you're given?

Please quote someone on this forum who suggested for you to get into a relationship with an extremely low quality woman?
She isn't low quality at all, I'm low quality by comparison. She's college educated, has a 42 grand a year job, her own place and doesn't want children, like myself.

I did end up texting her about an hour ago, she didn't reply though so I guess I'm back to square one with trying to find girlfriend


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Then follow advice you're given?

Please quote someone on this forum who suggested for you to get into a relationship with an extremely low quality woman?
She isn't low quality at all, I'm low quality by comparison. She's college educated, has a 42 grand a year job, her own place and doesn't want children, like myself.

I did end up texting her about an hour ago, she didn't reply though so I guess I'm back to square one with trying to find girlfriend
You're like the guy who goes to the gym after years of being on the couch, fumbles around with some weights without actually trying to LEARN and APPLY anything, and out of frustration gives up 2 months later to sit back on the couch again.

Guess not everyone was meant to succeed. Stay status quo on the sidewalk of life, that's your perrogative.


Bet you don't feel so good now having texted her and receiving nothing in return.


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Then follow advice you're given?

Please quote someone on this forum who suggested for you to get into a relationship with an extremely low quality woman?
She isn't low quality at all, I'm low quality by comparison. She's college educated, has a 42 grand a year job, her own place and doesn't want children, like myself.

I did end up texting her about an hour ago, she didn't reply though so I guess I'm back to square one with trying to find girlfriend
There's your problem right there, your mentality, sense of self-worth. If you think you're shit, u'll settle for it (and do a con job on yourself for a time convincing yourself its anything other than shit).


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:36 pm 
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Actually I'm kind of glad she didn't respond to tell you the truth


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Actually I'm kind of glad she didn't respond to tell you the truth
That you're acting helpless? Um ok.

You're 'happy' she didn't react rudely and create more pain for you such as telling you she's seeing someone new, or telling you to eff off. Once that wears off u'll feel shitty for having snatched that itch and giving her power again.

You feel better for a brief moment because you scratched your attachment itch but that'll fade shortly and u'll feel worse.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:15 am 
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Actually I'm kind of glad she didn't respond to tell you the truth
Why is that? Why the hell, do you want to be in a relationship with someone (AND she get's to eat her own cake(s) ) who that you are no sure she will reply or not?

When you're in a rship. Getting her to respond is NEVER an issue because you're together. I think you have jumped the gun and scared her away with your mental decisions.

You are a pathetic excuse for a man and you deserve to be unhappy.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:08 pm 
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It's just confusing to me. She went from thinking she's not good enough to me, to me thinking I'm not good enough for her. I remember shortly after the relationship started she gave me some shpeal that went something like "It's like you bring nothing into this relationship and I just bring all this shit. I have all this emotional baggage, I'm going through a divorce and you're young, with money, you're super hot and I feel like you could have any girl you wanted. Why do you want to be with me?" And now it's lead to THIS. I feel so helpless to get her back now that she didn't even respond to my text. I'd do anything to be with her again.

As for me deserving to be unhappy? That's rather harsh. But I'm confident I'll get over this and on to something new at some point.


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She went from thinking she's not good enough to me, to me thinking I'm not good enough for her. I remember shortly after the relationship started she gave me some shpeal that went something like "It's like you bring nothing into this relationship and I just bring all this shit. I have all this emotional baggage, I'm going through a divorce and you're young, with money, you're super hot and I feel like you could have any girl you wanted."
She went from letting you down easy to being honest.

Regardless, your mentality, sense of self-worth and overall persona is that of a scrap dog, sitting by the kitchen table hoping some leftovers fall off so that you too can have something to eat.

I'm not sure if you can tell or not, but those traits will never amount to a proper hunter.

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So basically this guy is saying he wants an open relationship with her.

Just ignore her, dude. Like truly, honestly don't contact her for weeks.

They come back if you gave them orgasms. They always do.

Fuck other women, and don't contact her.

I got dumped 8 months ago by a girl I liked. I went out and banged other women. One of those women blew my mind and we've been dating for 7 months (with a one month break because I was a dick). You know you've found a good girl when she completely wipes out the jerk off material from the girl who you thought was "the one".

Long story short, the ex who dumped me 8 months ago completely blew up my phone a couple weeks back, literally begging me to fuck her from behind. I agreed, told her I'd contact her later that evening after work...


...and never did. And then I ignored the rest of her messages on FB, text, and voicemail.

Her friends PM'ed me her Facebook rant the next morning. Muahhahaha.

this woman has lost respect and attraction for you. No contact is the "cleanse". Sometimes it takes weeks, sometimes months. But if you added value to their lives (sexually, emotionally, etc) they will be back after they realize this.

And then you have the power, and the right frame to make the best decision.

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So basically this guy is saying he wants an open relationship with her.

Just ignore her, dude. Like truly, honestly don't contact her for weeks.

They come back if you gave them orgasms. They always do.

Fuck other women, and don't contact her.

I got dumped 8 months ago by a girl I liked. I went out and banged other women. One of those women blew my mind and we've been dating for 7 months (with a one month break because I was a dick). You know you've found a good girl when she completely wipes out the jerk off material from the girl who you thought was "the one".

Long story short, the ex who dumped me 8 months ago completely blew up my phone a couple weeks back, literally begging me to fuck her from behind. I agreed, told her I'd contact her later that evening after work...


...and never did. And then I ignored the rest of her messages on FB, text, and voicemail.

Her friends PM'ed me her Facebook rant the next morning. Muahhahaha.

this woman has lost respect and attraction for you. No contact is the "cleanse". Sometimes it takes weeks, sometimes months. But if you added value to their lives (sexually, emotionally, etc) they will be back after they realize this.

And then you have the power, and the right frame to make the best decision.
I can attest to that. My ex of who I was with for almost 2 years will contact me every 4-5 months - we'd tried a few times to 'make it work' (it rarely if ever does), both times 4/5months of no contact later she's snooping online (fake FB accounts, 'friending' friends of mine, 'liking' soundcloud songs of mine, one time even showing up outside my place at 11pm on her bicycle). Some girls are completely cray like that, I'd learned my lesson a while ago, it aint worth it particularly if all you're holding onto is the nostalgia of it all. Your brain will f*ck with you for a while hyping up all the 'good' times, forgetting the bad (temporary amnesia), and the worst is when you hold onto the EXPECTATION she'll return it keeps you in a holding pattern disabling you from moving on).

Leave this one alone, it won't have a happy ending, that much is for sure. And if you think u'll be ok with an open relationship, just wait till that (if ever) happens. U'll be in a world of hurt not trusting her, thinking she may be boinking some other guy, etc.. u'll be in far worse pain than you are now believe it or not.

There are other women out there. There will be other loves, ones who will reciprocate and give you the love you deserve (and deserve). But this will only come about after you've done some soul searching and learn what it looks like to first love one's self, in addition to letting your wounds heal.

For me goal planning has always helped. I choose not to get involved with anyone simply because I know the wound for me is still open, and will need time to heal. I have times where I do feel lonely, and I've learned to be cool with that, taking the good with the bad. When I feel in despair I'll do something kind for myself; call a friend to catch-up, workout, work on my business plan, read a book, have a netflix night, etc..

Whenever your mind shifts to her, redirected your focus to something that fills you. Get rid of any other headwinds in your life that keep you from progressing forward. This requires some brutal honesty. Remember, where you are in your life right now is in a sense the result of the lump sum of decisions you've made till this point. Start making better decisions, start bringing some self-respect back to yourself and living life the way YOU want to.



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Upon re-reading nathoonder's 'shameful' post it reads more like a desperate plea for help than anything. We've all been there, maybe not his exact situation but something similar so lest we judge. It's frustrating when we see guys who are where we once were ourselves. When I was working as an Addictions Counsellor I witnessed countless times how some of the more señor experienced guys in the program (ones who are on their 3rd, 4th, or 8th stint of 12-Step) would get exasperated with younger, naive guys in the program. They'd often project onto them calling these less experienced guys out, often alienating them in the process. Why? Because they saw themselves in them and it stirred up a lot of anger and resentment.

I don't think Nathoondser's situation is really any different. He was obviously compelled to come here for a reason, some shard of hope to get himself out of this, and to me that's deserving of some encouragement (to move forward). A lot of guys would simply say one thing here and do the complete opposite, at least he's being transparent, for better or worse. Maybe he'll have to experience a few more harsh dumps from this person. If that's what it takes for him to finally get it and evolve, so be it, it's not going to cost me anything, that's his choice.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 11:09 pm 
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Do you guys think she'll ever contact me again?

I was thinking about just staying home, going out very little, budgeting and saving as much money as I possibly can over the next 4-5 months for her. On top of that, get some Colgate teeth whitening strips because she said I didn't take good enough care of my teeth (haven't had a cavity since my high school days though!!), maybe start school or have a start date in mind, then contact her. Maybe if I improve myself and offer her a better version of myself she'd be interested in me again? You guys are the experts.

Also, it's not like I haven't been trying to talk to other women. I'm on five dating sites, and got a girls number from a party on Tuesday, and have been on dates with three different women but.. I still want my ex back.


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