Is there a free online guide where i can learn this it sounds very cool.

Check at your local library but just a warning since most of these "Self Help" books use NLP then when you search it you will get 5billion responses by Robbins.

Goodluck

any particular books you would recommend

I actually took it upon myself to find some at my local library recently. Unfortunately all the ones I could find were by Robbins and so I searched on World Cat (it is a function in most libraries .. ask them about it) and I had other librarys Ship my library some books I picked out. I will give you information on them when I get them in. Until then, I can't really give you a good review.

EvoJ

I agree...'tricking' someone to go to bed with you sounds like you're not worth it in the first place...plus sounds like you're evil!

You could be more open and honest about it... If you need to use this alot, I imagine you aren't confident without messing with her mind first...I don't see how that be truly satisfying sexual encounter, knowing you 'tricked' her (I realise it doesn't take much for a man to be satisfied in bed, but I mean mentally too lol)

I don't know enough about it I admit, but at the moment, sounds unnecessary to use this method.

So ive started reading NLP made easy by carol harris. It seems like a good introduction to NLP.

I've found it to be most helpful in my personal life. Once I started studying NLP, I found that I was actually my own worse enemy, due my thought process. I've since changed, and my mind is much more harmonious. Can take the emotion out of past traumatic stresses. Paramount to my mental well being. I cannot say enough good about it. Great subject to be studying.

Anyone bashing NLP seriously needs to reconsider their stance on the game in general. The many critics of the PUA community argue that its manipulative and simply immoral. But, when we understand it, we realize that it's merely an understanding social dynamics. Most of us naturally do the wrong thing, so the study of attraction and everything that the PUA community adheres to is nothing more than eliminating those erroneous behaviors and increasing the behaviors that are effective.... nothing more.

That being said, any criticism you can suggest against NLP would be equally valid to criticize the PUA community in general. NLP is not "brainwashing" or "tricking" or any other of those knee-jerk misconceptions. It is merely one more aspect of the game that is to be understood. Can NLP have adverse effects? Sure.... you can fuck a woman's life up. But does the game not have this same power? I'm not sure if you guys are over-estimating NLP or simply grossly under-estimating the game.... I tend to think its the latter. After I really started looking into it, as with the game, many of the things NLP teaches are things many people do naturally. Anchoring is a prime example of this. It's not brainwashing..... its understanding human nature. The game and NLP are not separate entities; NLP is simply one of many useful practices within the game. You might as well argue against negs due to their potentional effect on one's self-esteem.

My two cents.... don't use NLP if you're uncomfortable with it. I personally do not use it because I feel that the rest of the game is sufficient. But don't claim that it's brainwashing or immoral, because it is absolutely no more hazardous than the rest of the game.

NLP is good for helping with inner game and life outside the game.

ANd the debate rages onward...

My views you ask?

Well supose jon is naturally a ladies man. And supose he naturally (god loved this kid_) does NLP. Is jon "Tricking them"? No. Now if i learn it am i tricking them? No?

Its almost the same with the game. Some people are born some learn it.

ON the other hand hypnotizing some one to do your will does give me less satisfaction. But i am going to read up on it and try it out just so i can see A> if it really works and B>My morals on the subject after trying it


Bumble Bee Tuna

I think its not evil if you make someone feel good about doing something so they do it.
But absolutely sick and twisted to make someone feel bad about NOT doing something so they are forced into doing it.

In some cases I would class this as rape.

Making someone think that something terrivble is going to happen if they don't have sex with you.

as with power there does come esponsibility. nlp is power, power of your mind and how to use your mind to influence the actions of others. When you get good enough at it, it becomes mind control. I do think that it is morally wrong in some instances to use it as with making people feel bad or guilt them into doing something but the likely hood is that after reading some nlp it will change your belief for the better and hence stop you from doing the immoral with it. People are born with gifts, we all should use them and if you dont have gifts learn them. There is one objection to this rule and that is unless you are hurting others. Even with the game i find that i can hurt and that is why i always leave the girl in a good place after we are through either by getting her to break up through using nlp to decrease attraction or to portray boringness or whatever. I think that nlp is great for this sort of thing but i would feel morally challanged if i started using it in game. But hey thats just me everyone has there own map/perception you all have yours or like me are still finding theres. Do whats wright and you will never do wrong. O check out nlpweekly.com for some really good stuff. ciao

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Anybody have any good links for learning NLP?

here u go, NLP was pretty much on the news the other day. apparently a guy used nlp (as the news put it hypnosis) to get the girl serving behind a counter at a local food store to ignore him as he put his hand in the cash register and took as muchmoney as he wanted. heres teh story


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... ist123.xml

its even got a video

There is nothing bad about NLP. All it is about is getting people to stop and consider things on a deeper level. It is very subjective and it is very, very powerful to say the least in getting people to stop and think about what they want and as to how they conduct themselves.