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Wassup man, how ya doin'? I appreciate you making this topic! =D I apologize if this sounds all AFC. =\

But my question is I opened this HB with her thoughts on one of my friend's decision to drop out of HS.

Is this a good opener and how would I jump to a completely different topic?

We messaged each other back and forth for the past couple of days. She's given her thoughts on it and all. I've worked with this HB in the past, and I think she had feelings for me but I didn't act on it. She opened me when she first started working with me (IOI?). I reduced the amount of talking to her before she quit. We just said "hey" to each other whenever we saw each other. We saw each other for the first time in like 7-8 months, gave her hug and caught up on things but she was in a hurry so didn't have much time to talk. So,

is there any way I can build up enough attraction and number close her?

I should've number closed her when I had the chance. =X Sorry if it's long and all. I appreciate it.

I think I DHV'ed myself by telling her I told my friend to talk to the guy that can let him stay in the school district without him having to pay tuition because another friend of mine did. o_O


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Wassup man, how ya doin'? I appreciate you making this topic! =D I apologize if this sounds all AFC. =\

But my question is I opened this HB with her thoughts on one of my friend's decision to drop out of HS.

Is this a good opener and how would I jump to a completely different topic?

We messaged each other back and forth for the past couple of days. She's given her thoughts on it and all. I've worked with this HB in the past, and I think she had feelings for me but I didn't act on it. She opened me when she first started working with me (IOI?). I reduced the amount of talking to her before she quit. We just said "hey" to each other whenever we saw each other. We saw each other for the first time in like 7-8 months, gave her hug and caught up on things but she was in a hurry so didn't have much time to talk. So,

is there any way I can build up enough attraction and number close her?

I should've number closed her when I had the chance. =X Sorry if it's long and all. I appreciate it.

I think I DHV'ed myself by telling her I told my friend to talk to the guy that can let him stay in the school district without him having to pay tuition because another friend of mine did. o_O
I'm doing fantastic! You first asked if the topic of your friend dropping out of High School is a good opener. The truth is I can't answer that question. Results, are what matters in the field and not what I think. So, if you have used this several times, and women respond to it, continue to use it. :)

To jump to a completely different topic just find a transition phrase. The human mind naturally makes leaps that don't make sense. You can be driving down the road and you'll see a sign for a burger place and think "yumm." Then a second later you're reminded of that thing you have to do tomorrow. Weird right? It's typical for our minds to make jumps, so what we do in the field is just transition. I like saying, "Oh that reminds me of..." You could also say, "I just remembered..." These transitions will allow you to chance topic without appearing unusual.

So as I understand it, you worked with this girl and you think she had feelings for you. You kind of limited the relationship by not talking to her much when you worked together. However, you spoke online for some time. Then after about 7 to 8 months you physically saw each other, but she didn't have much time to talk. And you would like to know if you can get her phone #? My answer is without a doubt, YES!!!

Considering that you have worked with her previously, and talked online some I would think she has enough comfort with you already. Before you can get a phone number from a girl she has to have enough comfort with you built. Comfort in knowing that you aren't going to do something creepy with it, or call her 20 times a day, etc. I think she knows that already. My suggestion to you is in your next interaction whether that is online or in person ask her for her phone number.

If you are online I would message her through messenger preferably, and after some conversation say, "I'm tired of this typing, what's your phone number?" If you are using email, I would type my email out and say the same thing. :) If she says, "No" or comes up with an excuse then don't worry about it. Continue to talk to her as if it's no big deal, when you've build more comfort then try to ask again.

The one thing I would caution you on is to make sure you go back, and build attraction when you finally get in front of each other again. I'd hate for you to end up in the "Friends Zone." If you have questions about this there are some great posts about how to do it. Basically, it involves not showing immediate interest in the girl, negging her a few time lightly. Of course using more DHV stories, which you can do over email or IM. Then playing on her comments when she DHV's or qualifies herself later.

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To jump to a completely different topic just find a transition phrase. The human mind naturally makes leaps that don't make sense. You can be driving down the road and you'll see a sign for a burger place and think "yumm." Then a second later you're reminded of that thing you have to do tomorrow. Weird right? It's typical for our minds to make jumps, so what we do in the field is just transition. I like saying, "Oh that reminds me of..." You could also say, "I just remembered..." These transitions will allow you to chance topic without appearing unusual.

Is it okay for me to say "I've been wondering..follow up with a question?"
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Considering that you have worked with her previously, and talked online some I would think she has enough comfort with you already. Before you can get a phone number from a girl she has to have enough comfort with you built. Comfort in knowing that you aren't going to do something creepy with it, or call her 20 times a day, etc. I think she knows that already. My suggestion to you is in your next interaction whether that is online or in person ask her for her phone number.
Can I use that line that goes like, "I'll promise to only text you 9 creepy messages a day" or something along those lines? I think she acknowledges me as a goofy chill carefree kinda guy.

Also, if she replies with a long reply, does that mean anything?

I appreciate you replying!


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To jump to a completely different topic just find a transition phrase. The human mind naturally makes leaps that don't make sense. You can be driving down the road and you'll see a sign for a burger place and think "yumm." Then a second later you're reminded of that thing you have to do tomorrow. Weird right? It's typical for our minds to make jumps, so what we do in the field is just transition. I like saying, "Oh that reminds me of..." You could also say, "I just remembered..." These transitions will allow you to chance topic without appearing unusual.

Is it okay for me to say "I've been wondering..follow up with a question?"
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Considering that you have worked with her previously, and talked online some I would think she has enough comfort with you already. Before you can get a phone number from a girl she has to have enough comfort with you built. Comfort in knowing that you aren't going to do something creepy with it, or call her 20 times a day, etc. I think she knows that already. My suggestion to you is in your next interaction whether that is online or in person ask her for her phone number.
Can I use that line that goes like, "I'll promise to only text you 9 creepy messages a day" or something along those lines? I think she acknowledges me as a goofy chill carefree kinda guy.

Also, if she replies with a long reply, does that mean anything?

I appreciate you replying!
You're on the right track man! The "I've been wondering..." is a great transition. Also, I really like the "I'll promise to only text you 9 creepy messages a day." That's great cocky funny. If she follows along with it I'd consider it an IOI.

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I appreciate all the replies J. They've helped me alot.


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I appreciate all the replies J. They've helped me alot.
Not a problem man, that's what I'm here for! Let me know how it all works out.

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 Post subject: Quick Question
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So I was playing the question texting game with this HB and we were asking each other a few general questions and I busted out "Which do you prefer giving hand jobs or head" she replied "I knew that one was coming, Hand," kind of a let down but only a slut would admit to like giving BJ's and then she asks me if I prefer one night stands or relationships how do you suggest I should respond?


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 Post subject: Re: Quick Question
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So I was playing the question texting game with this HB and we were asking each other a few general questions and I busted out "Which do you prefer giving hand jobs or head" she replied "I knew that one was coming, Hand," kind of a let down but only a slut would admit to like giving BJ's and then she asks me if I prefer one night stands or relationships how do you suggest I should respond?
Well you have certainly escalated the conversation sexually, good job! :D Okay so we got two choices here. If you respond "One Night Stands" you look like a player. If you say "Relationships" it looks better to most women. The key here is being honest. If you say relationships and two days later you say to her you don't want to get serious that's going to send up a red flag in her head. So whatever you respond with just be honest about it.

BTW, if you're having this fun conversation sounds like you need to move to get her in person, now that her buying temperature is up!

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Ah, one more. lol How would I build comfort through the internet?


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Ah, one more. lol How would I build comfort through the internet?
You build comfort over the Internet the same as you would in person. A lot of people think that online game is some mythical creature that has some special method to catch. Suprisingly online game is just like regular day or night game except you are typing what you want to say, and you have more time to respond. :) The only difference is we tend to be forced to build more comfort than attraction because of the physical limitations of online game.

To answer your question, ask her questions about her life. Have her tell you stories about herself, and make comments about them. Perhaps have her tell you what she likes to do, what her dreams are, why she thinks she's a good friend, and the basic stuff too. By basic stuff I mean: Where you from, where did you go to school, where do you work, yata yata.

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Thanks a lot for doing this Jsmooth.
I read your LR#51 and got to say, It's pretty impresive.
I wanna expand my online game, actually start one.
What would you suggest is easier for me to start with, ads and dating sites or things like myspace.
I already got a myspace page, but mostly use it to stay in touch with friends that live in other cities.

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Thanks a lot for doing this Jsmooth.
I read your LR#51 and got to say, It's pretty impresive.
I wanna expand my online game, actually start one.
What would you suggest is easier for me to start with, ads and dating sites or things like myspace.
I already got a myspace page, but mostly use it to stay in touch with friends that live in other cities.
Thanks for the comments about my latest Field Report. I personally like both ad and dating sites. In my opinion the easiest is dating sites. Since you are a PMZ member and are curious about online dating I would recommend you check out my Online Dating Black Book I wrote and posted in the PMZ. This will give you a lot of answers about the sites and setting up a profile.

online-dating-black-book-by-j-smooth--vt18232.html

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Just became a member the other day and this post alone is worth the money. There is so much other good info to.
Thanks Jsmooth!

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Just became a member the other day and this post alone is worth the money. There is so much other good info to.
Thanks Jsmooth!
Always happy to help!

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I'm trying to get this girl from match dot com..she looks pretty hot..not the hottest and had a pretty down-to-earth profile.

I told the hot target to tell me 3 things besides her looks that would make me want to know her better via an online personal as STYLE (Neil Strauss) has suggested.

She has replied back with this:

"Better yet why don't you give me three reasons why I should take the time to tell you about myself.

Morgan"


I have no idea what to do when they throw this back in my face. Any suggestions or experience in this area would be greatly appreciated, fellow PUA.

I posted this also at: building attraction & comfort sub-forum (please look there)
Some forum guys have suggested some things but I guess you'd be the ONLINE GURU...I would appreciate any help. =)


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