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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:46 pm 
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The reason the forum sucks - the misguided notion that there is only one path to success (along with mountains of pseudoscientific bullshit).

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:55 pm 
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OP is pretty arrogant. But who isn't at one point. Oh well OP, do what you want. Do what makes you happy.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 9:16 pm 
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The reason the forum sucks - the misguided notion that there is only one path to success (along with mountains of pseudoscientific bullshit).
Who ever said anything alluding to this? There is a lot of like minded thinking, but I haven't heard one person say that there was only one path to success.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 18, 2016 11:38 pm 
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The reason the forum sucks - the misguided notion that there is only one path to success (along with mountains of pseudoscientific bullshit).
DJ, do you not understand that what YOU are saying, is the pseudo stuff?

What YOU are saying, are the unrealistic things.

Can I guy who sits at home on the computer for most of his time get women who want to stick around and share that lifestyle with him? Maybe, but you're taking about RARE exceptions. Thats why its ironic that you accuse others of being misguided, when the advice here is just being REALISTIC and BLUNT, not "as long as you're happy you'll get chicks."

Its pseudo to tell a guy that most women arent going to want to sit at home with him? You're advice is against reality and what occurs most of the time. If a guy comes here and asks if he should lose weight, 9 times out of 10 he'd have more success if he did. Thats simple. Telling the guy there are other paths applies to the rare case or even none at all.

If the OP is happy staying at home....great! But if he asks if it will negatively impact getting women to STAY, it would be a lie to tell him it wont. Obviously he is happy with his lifestyle and its not working for him. If it were, he wont be asking this question.So telling him to keep doing what he is doing is just nonsensical.

You say, tangible advice isnt being given...well please give the OP TANGIBLE advice. Tell him about these different paths you say that keep him inside and getting women. You say "stay healthy and happy" and ridicule the lack of tangible advice? Tell him how he doesnt need to change his lifestyle and things will change? Ive never seen this guy who sits on the computer all day and gets women consistently so maybe you can inform us with something substantial. Tell us how it is possible for him to continue his lifestyle and disdain for todays youth, get more women and the LIKELIHOOD of this being successful. These are all genuine questions for you to do what you said there is a lack of, ie OFFERING TANGIBLE ADVICE.


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Some people are content with complacency/mediocrity. Nobody will try to rob you of that mindset. The world will keep turning, time will have its way and your menial existence will cease to be at some point. Don't worry, nobody will try to take away your right to have that sort of existence, if that's what you want.

Personally I have no desire to help such people. It's not my ambition to help burst that bubble of isolation you've created for yourself. Frankly, I don't care. You see I value my time more than that; to be spent on worthwhile endeavours, and to touch those who are open to a new way of being, to evolving. I shut the lid to my macbook and forget you even exist (until perhaps I see another post you'd started).


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The reason the forum sucks - the misguided notion that there is only one path to success (along with mountains of pseudoscientific bullshit).
Some paths are better than others.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:26 am 
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I keep seeing on this forum, the suggestion to have an "attractive" lifestyle.
I read the book Models by Mark Manson, I like it, the part where he mentions honesty.

Honestly, the things I like to do aren't "attractive" - whatever that means. All in all, I think "attractive" lifestyles are superficial, hyped-up bullshit.
I mean, if you like things that are considered "attractive", then fine.

The point is, I feel you should do whatever YOU LIKE - whether it is "attractive" or not.
I tried a couple of "attractive" activities, didn't like them. Doing them for the sake of improving my chances with girls, I feel is supplicancy.
Besides, if you keep doing activities you don't like, they will just cause you grief.

I'll be honest. I like sitting around at home. Fooling around on the computer, TV, reading, whatever. I'm like a grandpa. I don't need to do any wakeboarding, motorcycling, etc.
I feel I am too mature for all that. When I was 10, yes I would have jumped at the opportunity. But now, it just doesn't make me feel excited. Don't have any desire for it.
I'm 23 and I feel like I already experienced all there was to experience, and "what the world has to offer" ain't that exciting. I do exercise and go to college. But the rest is sitting around at home.

So is there something wrong with this mentality or what? Will I be turned down by a woman for this?
Why don't you just try to find a girl who you have stuff in common with?
Like playing video games?, go to a cyber cafe and see if there are any girls playing games there and don't puss out, talk to them.

Like reading books?, join a book club, see women, don't puss out etc.... you get the point.

What every you like doing, go try to do that with other people, look for women that do that too and meet them, do what ever you can to network and find girls that suit your life if you are so adamant about not changing. Just don't expect to be meeting supermodel gorgeous women with the bodies of greek goddesses when they live completely sedentary lifestyles. You will find if you don't care for the superficial and the social scene outside the quiet serenity of home with little to no value placed on fashion/appearance and going out, with a tendency towards geek culture, then a girl who would be a good fit for you also likely won't be into fashion, doing her makeup well or working out either and will likely be a bit awkward and withdrawn as well.


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I was really hoping Dj would provide that tangible advice on how OP could improve his results without changing his lifestyle. Is there anyone who believes the same that can provide an explanation for those words?


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Is there anyone who believes the same that can provide an explanation for those words
There isn't. Because his belief is stupid. And I can barely take the irony of him accusing the board's advice of being pseudo, and then he says shit like "stay happy and healthy".

Speaking of irony, the OP attempts to be witty towards NeoNazi while displaying evident homophobic/xenophobic inclinations.

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Maybe you should expand your dating pool towards other social cretins with equally as fucked up views about the world. It may be difficult since they too probably avoid leaving their caves, I mean they might see homosexuals if they do.

I suggest rednecks or your typical Trump supporter. That's more or less the exact intellect level compatible to your own ideologies.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 12:57 pm 
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The op said he is basically a homebody. He surfs the internet, watches tv, reads (underrated). You guys projected this image of the world of war craft guy from south park onto a dude that I just see as kind of a homebody.

So neo, part of the problem is the creation of a false premise. All he has to add to the equation is going out and learning the foundations of pickup. Yeah, the dude has to go meet women. But the whole lifestyle thing, constant self improvement and other bullshit is for men who are so afraid of being labeled weird for just sarging they build this hobby up to something more than it is.

Since trump was brought up I'll paraphrase that crazy dude. Let's make sarging great again!

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:12 pm 
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The op said he is basically a homebody. He surfs the internet, watches tv, reads (underrated). You guys projected this image of the world of war craft guy from south park onto a dude that I just see as kind of a homebody.

So neo, part of the problem is the creation of a false premise. All he has to add to the equation is going out and learning the foundations of pickup. Yeah, the dude has to go meet women. But the whole lifestyle thing, constant self improvement and other bullshit is for men who are so afraid of being labeled weird for just sarging they build this hobby up to something more than it is.

Since trump was brought up I'll paraphrase that crazy dude. Let's make sarging great again!

Hold onto that go-nowhere/status quo mentality and continue on with your impoverished life.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:30 pm 
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See, that's the problem. The arrogance and assumptions made about people who don't join the cult.

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See, that's the problem. The arrogance and assumptions made about people who don't join the cult.
This may be because of a perspective on life and not arrogant assumptions. If I were still 19 and someone said improve your lifestyle and yourself in order to get girls, I'd say that they were wasting time. Now that I'm older, I get and keep women on a large part due to my lifestyle and drive for self improvement. Does that mean that I couldn't do so without it? No, but it would be harder for me to achieve the same results.

I'm not downing your POV, but I do see you as being closed minded on the whole thing.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:21 pm 
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See, that's the problem. The arrogance and assumptions made about people who don't join the cult.
You hold a very myopic view of the world.

"Other people are forcing me to conform" is your mantra, your narrative so anything anyone else says you're blind to, and instead of giving it any credence you instead stubbornly stick to this closed view.


So you're creating a self-fullfililng prophecy.

If you were a client of mine I'd have 'fired' you upon consultation as you're closed off to help. I know when not to waste my time.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:25 pm 
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constant self improvement and other bullshit is for men who are so afraid of being labeled weird
It's not just about game or pickup. Constant learning and improvement are what define a quality life. Money has nothing to do with it, it's about being a better person. This will make you happier and the women in your life more satisfied. If anything, following a routine of self-improvement will get *you* called weird because you'll stand out from the chodes.

You see the people out there who don't do this: They're obese, their wife is obese with short hair. They putter around the mall or Costco. The highlight of their week is TV and the couch.

FUCK THAT.

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