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If you're going to introduce the topic, think first on why you want her to be your gf.

Has she invested in you? Shown you nice things beyond a casual relationship? For eg, a girl cooking for you when you're sick. Has she earned it?

Is she emotionally mature enough for a relationship? Has she shown you she's honest? What are her relationship values, and do they align with them? For eg, if you're dating a girl and she thinks its ok to see exs. Or she's still going on dates. If at the point you're about to bring the topic up, if you dont know if shes dating other people, then she's not thinking about a relationship with you.

Screen. She should have the qualities you're looking for, and should be invested in you. Too many times guys find a girl who matches their perfect chick, but the girl is just going on dates with you and fucking you. She may be a good girl on paper, but she's not doing anything for you.


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If you're going to introduce the topic, think first on why you want her to be your gf.

Has she invested in you? Shown you nice things beyond a casual relationship? For eg, a girl cooking for you when you're sick. Has she earned it?

Is she emotionally mature enough for a relationship? Has she shown you she's honest? What are her relationship values, and do they align with them? For eg, if you're dating a girl and she thinks its ok to see exs. Or she's still going on dates. If at the point you're about to bring the topic up, if you dont know if shes dating other people, then she's not thinking about a relationship with you.

Screen. She should have the qualities you're looking for, and should be invested in you. Too many times guys find a girl who matches their perfect chick, but the girl is just going on dates with you and fucking you. She may be a good girl on paper, but she's not doing anything for you.
I think another good question that could be asked is howmanys girls he has on his carousal right now

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If you're going to introduce the topic, think first on why you want her to be your gf.

Has she invested in you? Shown you nice things beyond a casual relationship? For eg, a girl cooking for you when you're sick. Has she earned it?

Is she emotionally mature enough for a relationship? Has she shown you she's honest? What are her relationship values, and do they align with them? For eg, if you're dating a girl and she thinks its ok to see exs. Or she's still going on dates. If at the point you're about to bring the topic up, if you dont know if shes dating other people, then she's not thinking about a relationship with you.

Screen. She should have the qualities you're looking for, and should be invested in you. Too many times guys find a girl who matches their perfect chick, but the girl is just going on dates with you and fucking you. She may be a good girl on paper, but she's not doing anything for you.
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What are her relationship values, and do they align with them?
How to figure those out without straight forward asking her?

And for the other questions - yes, she has invested somewhat IMO. She cooked for me,she goes buys groceries. She seems honest - if I ask her something, she doesn't bee around the bush, but tells me the truth directly.

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What are her relationship values, and do they align with them?
How to figure those out without straight forward asking her?

And for the other questions - yes, she has invested somewhat IMO. She cooked for me,she goes buys groceries. She seems honest - if I ask her something, she doesn't bee around the bush, but tells me the truth directly.


You use statements.


One of my statements is "I am guessing you watch your figure (if she is in shape). I like taking care of myself and I don't want to let myself go if I ever get into a relationship"


anddd she may start talking about how she likes looking good for her man, blah blah, will you ever stop talking to her if she got fat blah blah and you tell her yes because I am taking care of myself and I expect my girl to hold her own....

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What are her relationship values, and do they align with them?
How to figure those out without straight forward asking her?

And for the other questions - yes, she has invested somewhat IMO. She cooked for me,she goes buys groceries. She seems honest - if I ask her something, she doesn't bee around the bush, but tells me the truth directly.


You use statements.


One of my statements is "I am guessing you watch your figure (if she is in shape). I like taking care of myself and I don't want to let myself go if I ever get into a relationship"


anddd she may start talking about how she likes looking good for her man, blah blah, will you ever stop talking to her if she got fat blah blah and you tell her yes because I am taking care of myself and I expect my girl to hold her own....
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What are her relationship values, and do they align with them?
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How to figure those out without straight forward asking her?

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One of my statements is "I am guessing you watch your figure (if she is in shape). I like taking care of myself and I don't want to let myself go if I ever get into a relationship"
OK that is a good example but it is for something external - how about more serious or internal stuff like: honesty, trust, loyalty.
How do you figure out if she has values like those if you are not in a committed RS yet.

I assume comparing previous relationships she had would be a way to do so, but asking her directly about previous relationships she had, somehow doesn't feels fine.

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I am actually surprised you don't know her that well yet. You guys have being seeing each other for awhile. Tell you what, I will tell you what I would do. I'd keep dating hee. Now you have us to get you to where she will be bringing up the exclusivity talk. Keep dating her and screening her , maybe you might even save yourself some heartache. One question that I love using is "what has your dating life been like " or "what are your biggest pet peeves"




Usually the pet peeves one she, I got say liars cheaters etc. If she doesn't. ....ask her her pet peeves in a relationship . Now do not hint that you want something more. The way I do is I do boyfriend behaviors. Think of all the couples you have seen, what do they do. Just do that. Treat her like your girlfriend. Eventually she will be asking you what do you want frome this and you tell her that you are looking for someone but aren't in any rush even if you are. If she likes you she will help you with your goal

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What are her relationship values, and do they align with them?
How to figure those out without straight forward asking her?
Errr... sorry to open your eyes on that but that's something you could have asked since first date. "What are you looking for in a man?" is a great way to romanticize the conversation with a girl you only know recently. On top of that now that you've developped a stronger bond she's more likely to be more honest about it.
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Think of all the couples you have seen, what do they do. Just do that.
Actually most of the couples out there have terrible communication issues.

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What are her relationship values, and do they align with them?
How to figure those out without straight forward asking her?
Errr... sorry to open your eyes on that but that's something you could have asked since first date. "What are you looking for in a man?" is a great way to romanticize the conversation with a girl you only know recently. On top of that now that you've developped a stronger bond she's more likely to be more honest about it.
I must be pretty cynical. Asking questions like this has never given me an honest answer. It's given me a basic prince charming answer, but not anything that's real deep down. It'll be the things that she wished that she had in a previous relationship. I never put much into "asking".

People will show you who they are. Give a woman a few months and she will present her values to you without you having to ask as long as you pay attention and don't fall for the "she likes me and gives great head" mentality and not ignore red flags.

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I assume comparing previous relationships she had would be a way to do so, but asking her directly about previous relationships she had, somehow doesn't feels fine.
Listening and asking questions can reveal alot. For eg, one time before a chick and I were supposed to meet we're talking on the phone joking. At a point she's talking about our date and jokes that she has to look out for her ex, who if he sees her, he told her he'd throw a drink in her face. So Im laughing but interested to know what happened to make him say this. So I ask oh you broke up with him over a text or something, in a teasing way. She says nah, in person. So I know thats a harsh threat to make so I probe further. She says well I started to hang out with this celeb guy right before, so when I broke up with him, he thought it meant that I was cheating with the celebrity and that I broke up with him for the celeb. So I'm still joking and I say, let me guess you did start dating that celeb right after. She says yes and Im teasing her. I also know if she started dating the celeb right after breaking up, there must have been something going on while they were friends. She's like yeah we fooled around. So, from this, I can see that she doesnt have remorse from past cheating. She still rationalized it as she didnt cheat. So would this girl be gf material? No.

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I must be pretty cynical. Asking questions like this has never given me an honest answer. It's given me a basic prince charming answer, but not anything that's real deep down. It'll be the things that she wished that she had in a previous relationship. I never put much into "asking".
Lol when I got to know my first PU mate I told him "You're so cynical," to which he replied "No, just realistic."

No doubt most girls will reply the "basic prince charming answer." But I don't want to be in a LTR with these girls so that makes things easier. I'll commit to a girl who knows what she wants from life, and is not afraid to share it with people. If lowriderz is ready to tolerate that kind of behavior then my advice might not fit his situation.

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What are her relationship values, and do they align with them?
How to figure those out without straight forward asking her?
Errr... sorry to open your eyes on that but that's something you could have asked since first date. "What are you looking for in a man?" is a great way to romanticize the conversation with a girl you only know recently. On top of that now that you've developped a stronger bond she's more likely to be more honest about it.
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Think of all the couples you have seen, what do they do. Just do that.
Actually most of the couples out there have terrible communication issues.


Lol, I am referring to the honeymoon phase. I should have been more specific. Watching couples during the honeymoon phase, you see alot of physical affection and things are going ok. Lots of hand holding, and hugs, kinda like watching teenagers until they start grabbing at each others throat down the line. I am 100% positive that most couples have terrible communication issues. So I will agree there.

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