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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2016 5:22 pm 
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Well played. Close that shit!
Appreciated man, some solid advice pushed me over my limits and made me realise a ton of things, i'm mostly glad that i managed to use the push/pull techniques when we met at work aswell, rather then just by texting.

I'll post another update on monday.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:08 pm 
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I'm guessing a that she is the sort of girl that doesn't get chatted up much ,probably because every guy thinks she is either taken or out of his league.You have taken the balls to slowly take things ,where most other guys would over try. It sounds like you have played this all very well and i'm sure she is ready :-) I would out of the blue ask her for a coffee or something straight after work ,that way your are outside of work and there is little pressure of a date and maybe offer her a lift/walk home.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 3:44 pm 
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I'm guessing a that she is the sort of girl that doesn't get chatted up much ,probably because every guy thinks she is either taken or out of his league.You have taken the balls to slowly take things ,where most other guys would over try. It sounds like you have played this all very well and i'm sure she is ready :-) I would out of the blue ask her for a coffee or something straight after work ,that way your are outside of work and there is little pressure of a date and maybe offer her a lift/walk home.
Coffee dates normally suck, why would he take a step backwards?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2016 4:05 pm 
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He has a;ready laid all the ground work , he has already established himself as standing out from the rest of the guys.I think it should be easy to close on this


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He has a;ready laid all the ground work , he has already established himself as standing out from the rest of the guys.I think it should be easy to close on this
Right. So then why fuck that up with a LJBF"s god awful coffee date? They are for finding out if you look like your online profile, so you can make a mad dash for your car. It's like a weird job interview thing.

They're weird and boring and awkward, and there's nothing to do except stare at each other, nobody want that.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:20 pm 
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Just reading the examples of the texts between you , well done buddy think it's good work now enough of this bs and close it


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:24 pm 
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Jesus christ, this went from A to B all the way to Z in no time. I am here with a pretty different update..

Anyhow, we started sexting quite shortly after all this and eventually got a couple of nudes from her. I went to visit my friends this weekend in an area which is known to be where tons of people hook up etc...
The minute i took my train towards there, things took a turn for the worst. She started becoming needy, texting me every 2 minutes and asking why i wouldn't respond 15 minutes later or so and if i was banging another chick.. Lol.

Anyhow, i quickly replied to her to tell her she was crossing some serious borders. Got the typical ''kk sure'' into 5 texts kind of deal out of it saying how i'm messing with her etc.. Explained her that i told her i wasn't looking for a relationship yet and that there's a ton more stuff i gotta do on my own before reconsidering and she just went mental.

Kinda established the situation and was supposed to meet up with her yesterday which obviously would end up in f-closing as we both said we would.

Anyway, believe it or not, i didn't go. The way she acted in that weekend was so damn crazy that i knew i'd be fucked if i would go, having sex with her would seal my faith. Texted her this morning saying we should end this and move on.

I'm actually sitting here like wtf.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:34 pm 
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Jesus christ, this went from A to B all the way to Z in no time. I am here with a pretty different update..

Anyhow, we started sexting quite shortly after all this and eventually got a couple of nudes from her. I went to visit my friends this weekend in an area which is known to be where tons of people hook up etc...
The minute i took my train towards there, things took a turn for the worst. She started becoming needy, texting me every 2 minutes and asking why i wouldn't respond 15 minutes later or so and if i was banging another chick.. Lol.

Anyhow, i quickly replied to her to tell her she was crossing some serious borders. Got the typical ''kk sure'' into 5 texts kind of deal out of it saying how i'm messing with her etc.. Explained her that i told her i wasn't looking for a relationship yet and that there's a ton more stuff i gotta do on my own before reconsidering and she just went mental.

Kinda established the situation and was supposed to meet up with her yesterday which obviously would end up in f-closing as we both said we would.

Anyway, believe it or not, i didn't go. The way she acted in that weekend was so damn crazy that i knew i'd be fucked if i would go, having sex with her would seal my faith. Texted her this morning saying we should end this and move on.

I'm actually sitting here like wtf.
Lol. I'm actually proud of you for being able to walk away. Although...I doubt that it's over.

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Although...I doubt that it's over.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:11 pm 
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Small update,

We didn't talk to eachother today, told her we could just remain friends, got no response back. Got a message later that night saying:

Her: How was your day.
Me: Busy, but pretty good. Yours?
(Casual talk, actually non-creepy for once).
Her: I'm going to Amsterdam alone this weekend, really looking forward to party and meeting new guys!
Me: Always good to take some time for yourself, i'm going in August myself, let me know some good clubs once you get back.
Her: You should join me.
Me: Can't, i have to work.
Her: Wanna come over tonight?

The situation is very annoying, She's hot af, i'm horny af due to fitness yet i know she is playing games for sure. She probably wants to go slow, get me into bed and fuck me over this way, i'm not giving in.

I have decided to put my energy into other girls including my ex-girlfriend of 4 years ago, we are back in contact and things are going pretty well. She invited me to come over (we both live in different countries).
She's my ex because of me, just fyi, i messed everything up with being a gaming addict.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:17 am 
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You don't know what you should do? You are doing exactly what you should do. No need to start changing because she is confirming her interest in you.
Thing is, when it comes down to keeping things good, i'm a wreck. I'm trying not to overanalyze the situation but i'm just not good at keeping it up. When i texted her, i noticed the minute i turned sexual she'd send me back really short messages, if i involved her kid, she went all out. I think in order to build up enough comfort for her not to flake i just gotta follow that road and leave behind the sexual shit till we meet and go for a physical push, i guess she already receives such comments day in day out.
I wrote her 5 minutes ago asking which day to meet, she said she will have to see when she can bring her son to her parents which is another strong indicator that she knows what she wants.

Thing is, If i do fuck up somehow, i do atleast want to learn from my mistakes and move on without having to leave with no clue.
Hey I'm just an rAFC like you, but I'm in a similar situation and having better results. First my advice though...

idk why you are offering to make her food and feed her spawn. Sounds like you are supplicating. Truth is she doesn't need that shit- she can and does do that herself. At worst that could come off like an insult to her competence as a single mom. What she does need is guy to bring excitement into her life (you!). The only thing you need to worry about at this point is getting the logistics of meeting together, and when you do meet up make sure you do kino esc immediately take it as far as current comfort will allow using push pull.

It's easy to get caught up in the texting game, but it becomes a very stale form a flirting very quickly. Sexual advances come off contrived and weak in texts because they aren't accompanied by the power of your touch and kino. Even if you managed to build up attraction/sexual tension in any kind of text there's no point if you aren't meeting up. Plus, what guy actually wants to be caught up texting a girl random bs for hours on end? You have better things to do and so does she. I would try and solidify the frame of what the relationship should be in your mind first. Do you want to be a guy infinitely offering resources for the chance breathe the same air as her for a while, or do you want to be the guy she booty calls when she needs a good lay? She will take your lead and respond to the frame you set. You "reward" behavior that aligns with your framework (by engaging/entertaining her), and "punish" by negging or going a little more cold/aloof.

my similar situation/progression if you are interested: A promo model coworker mom of 2 is divorcing a shitty husband and needs fun. We haven't talked about her kids once except she showed me a picture or two and all I said was "cute kids." Date 1 was meeting up for a hike with another couple, where I immediately started kino esc and increased comfort with touch during the day with the standard techniques. Also made 1 really nice DHV with The next day she came over to my place and we exchanged pretty intense full body massages, but the logistics weren't right for sex. This friday is "date 3", a day she chose because she can actually stay out late.

Godspeed man and have fun :)

(edit): oh I just read the rest of the thread...my adv still stands though, if not for her then for the next one.


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