I’ve read many books, email, etc. but I still can’t seem to get over the hurdle of LMR.

A little background: I can seduce to the level of heavy making out by the first or second date. I can tell the girl is excited by her breathing and some trembling. I usually have my hands on her butt by this point and kissing her neck and ear, and hugging her so that are genitals are touching. But before I can get any further, the LMR kicks in. I get the usual I’ve been burned too many times, all guys just want to get into my pants, etc. I try telling her I’m not that guy, I’m different, and also just not saying anything – but it is always the same result – more LMR. I try backing off and just talk, and then go back to heavy making out but still the same result. This process will go on for 3 or 4 times or more before things just die down.

I’m not sure if I should slowly work my way to her breasts first after initiating the heavy kissing, or work her hands down to me, or what. I’m also wondering if my timing is right. I try to stoke the fire when it is hot, which is generally after some of the heavy kissing and I can her excited breathing.

It’ so frustrating to not F close after spending all this time getting myself to the level of getting to the point of intense kissing. Any advice as to what I should be doing differently is appreciated

Stomach kisses right below the belly button. If she believes that you are going to go down on her it's almost guaranteed that she is going to let you get the clothes off.

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Too many guys go for the zipper or the button on the pants too soon.

Put your focus on the breast. The breast are the most nerve endings you have access to outside of the clit and vagina. Start from the top and then work your way down. Kissing, then the breast, before going for the vagina. A woman positive pole is in her chest area, her negative is in her bottom (the receiving area). Think of her nipples as a the spokes on a car battery and your mouth as that which is going to charge it. Once the cars running you can take it for a drive. Not to mention, you can make a woman orgasm from her breast alone once you learn to be patient enough with them.

Spend 15 -20 minutes playing with her breast and she won't stop you when you go reach down for the zipper.

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Oh man...I remember the first time this happened between me and a girl and it was the first time it's ever happened to her. I felt like the first caveman to discover fire.

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What other guys said. And have some other girls in your rotation. Plus, don't ever try to justify yourself like that any more.
It's weak, and borderline needy. Next time, say something like this.
And back off, start again later. It's ping pong, it's a game. Not a statute for you to fingerbang. Hot n Cold, never heard of it?

Date more girls...

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When girls resist your foreplay on their breasts, lick their ears with your tongue first, then back to heavy kissing, then back to ear licking until there is no more resistance.

A slow massage also works so she can relax with just her underwear. As others have already emphasized, be patient with the foreplay and take your time.

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