It's a woman's job to put herself in a position of being seduced and it's a man's job to seduce her.

You did your part. He didn't do his.

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It isn't a woman's job to do so. It isn't a natural thing for them to do. Women's jobs are to make themselves available to be approached. The OP is still trying to get hers but in the end, the dude needs to man up. The guy needs to stop acting like a woman.

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Yo, I caught you. I have been looking all over the web hoping you would make a thread somewhere.

but seriously, i feel like the guy you're talking about is like me. shy and awkward? that's me.

Just so you know, sometimes we are so ashamed of our desires that we will try anything to make sure it is not known. I have been really mean to a girl I liked just to make sure she doesn't find out I like her. so dont be surprised if that happens. try to see his interactions with other girls. is he only awkward around you? that's a sign he likes you.

but I dont really understand your focus on this one guy. why would you even want a shy and awkward guy in your life?

A guy can respect a good call out..

" You know you could just ask me out on a real date right? "

If he's interested, he'll "lol" and then ask you when you're free. If he's not he'll down play it and keep you as his flirty work playmate. You guys work with each other and I'm sure he's afraid of getting rejected from straight forward asking you out which would result in a work environment thats even more awkward.


Now I'll tell you like I'll all women.. You probably don't want to start a relationship with a guy thats too fearful or shy to approach you. The fear doesn't just take over one aspect of life. If they aren't assertive enough now, they probably won't be assertive enough to play their role in the relationship.

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Not anymore. We both have seen women approach and play guys in bars and clubs, even in the streets. So that's happening.
And if we were to do the "natural thing" we'd all be naked wanking ourselves in the streets.

(if you want to discuss it more let's open another topic and not hijack this one)

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haha these responses crack me up

i don't really plan to do much else at this point since i invited him to the dinner.

what if he's simply not interested, lol. wouldn't that change everything! haha!

If he is straight and if you are physically attractive, he is very likely interested.

Our male genes tell us that we must at least always be attracted to the most attractive woman in the room at any given time.

Imagine how you'd feel if you were ovulating 24/7. That is a man's life.

This is all just generally speaking, of course.

No Bart, you're just awkward.

Still tho, update your FR we could use a good laugh.

You're afraid to be rejected, so you're making excuses not to be proactive. Like some men I know who would love to date women, but always come up with stuff like "it's too difficult, I'm too lazy" or "girls just don't like me."

Best policy when you start PU is not to give a shit about questions like "is she interested? what is she thinking now?" and instead work your way to the girl until 1) sex happens 2) the girl tells you to fuck off.

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No, that is the mindset of a teenager not of a grown up, to act mean so that you hide the fact that you are attracted to someone. I would agree with you that for a shy guy being awkward around a particular girl might be a sign of attraction.

So you have been giving him short one word replies in the past and you are not a smiley person, which doesn't sound too encouraging. If you would like to really know and considering that both of you are shy I would suggest to tell him that you are thinking to check out a particular area / event and ask if he is interested to join you. This would be an activity based date which will not have you stationary sitting across a table but rather for example walking into a market, going to an amusement park, playing games. It should remove a fair amount of awkwardness.

So an update about this guy - a bunch of us had to go on this work-related trip. The guy didn't ask me out but he more or less was following me around all the time. we had dinner together (just me and him), we ate lunch together, we went in the hot tub together, we went in the pool together.

So yeah, I mean to be honest i was getting SLIGHTLY annoyed because I wanted some alone time, and I felt self-conscious too because I felt like I had to try to look attractive and impress. Anyways, what do you think, does it sound like he just wants to be friends?

there was a different guy i used to know (who moved) who i liked who i was wondering if it was wise to hang out with him as friends since I was interested in more, and i was not interested in chatting with him about whatever girl he was seeing. I'm LESS concerned about that with this current guy- maybe that means I am not that interested? I have a really hard time liking someone.... I like my alone time and independence. I just know that with other guys i've liked, I would always look for reasons/excuses to be around them, and I would look forward to it, and have butterflies and such. i just don't feel the same with this guy... It's almost like I'm forcing myself to like him because I don't like anyone else at the moment!

Nah girl, it's nature at work. The guy is a pussy. You are losing attraction for him. You will friendzone him soon. I mean you can see if he wants it by asking him straight up what he thinks about your relationship with him. If he still pussies out and he doesn't show any interest, I'd be the woman that you are and move on to the next or stay celibate until your don juan comes your way. Until then, assert your independence!

Use your girly excuses, tell him you need to be alone to think. What man won't give a woman that ? Be a woman. Tell him indirectly you have issues you need to take care of. Whatever excuses you have used in the past to get rid of guys is the same here. Use them. He will be clueless anyway to understand what you really mean, which is gimme some damn space.

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