went out last night, had a great time. I am really progressing with my openers, using my routines and minipulating the conversations but last night i just want some feedback on one approach.

i opened a 3 set, hb 8s. they were receptive, the best looking girl was really fiesty and i think a little bit drunk.

hb8: so guess my name...you'll never do it!!
me: *look at tv, pretend i didn't hear her, bull shit with her friend, she knows im doing this on purpose
hb8: you'll never guess it! go ahead guess it...bla bla bla
me: *smile, "i'm not going to guess what your name is!"
hb8: I know...(these are fiesty remarks, and i am smiling but being stern)
me: I know a better game than the name game...(then i do the 5 question game...i didn't go well because she was trying to be too clever and she was way to competitive)

Then after another minute or so i left the set...my friend was still talking to the other girl. they kept looking at me while i joined another group and telling my friend to tell me my game didn't work, ect. I feel like i could have easily gone back over there and taken over the whole convo, but honestly felt like i'd be stealing the thunder from my friend. he refuses to take a serious look into the pua techniques so i let him do his own shit pretty much.

so basically, I didn't want to play her shit test and i basically ignored it completely. I felt like i was pretty hard. should i have handled it differently or do you just leave those girls until they change their attitutes? I just don't jump through hoops for girls i don't know

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One way you can go with this, and this is completely off the cuff, is to turn it back on her. Kinda like the martial arts principle where when you're attacked, instead of backing up, you move in closer. Risky, but that's the name of the game.

So anyways, you get all deep & thoughtful, really ham it up. Say something about how it's probably associated w/ how she looks. Then you have your moment of brilliance where the light comes on. "I've got it!! LARRY! No? Probably something weird like it rhymes w/ a name of a part of the female anatomy. Mulva? (credit Seinfeld on that one)." And you can go w/ whatever absurd names/logic come to mind.

When she doesn't give, and she probably won't since you know it's an unusual name to begin with, say "Screw it, you're new name is Man-Hands" and refurse to use her real name even after she tells you, because once you've declared "game over" and "I win because I said so" she's going to be desperate to get her name in.

If she does give then just say, "Fascinating, but I like Toothy better." I think you're starting to get the idea by now.

Just use your pet name for her until she's earned her real name back. Because when you time it right, you're going to make her melt by doing nothing more than saying her name

I should caveat this. You've gotta have the right delivery for it to work. Playful and over the top. But like most great jokes or tricks, it's not the event in and of itself, it's delivery that counts the most.

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i got to tell you...i was thinking of different things i could have done, but you are a damn genius. I think i could have delivered that perfectly. Thanks for the reply man!

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I am terrible with names to begin with. Just guess whatever name you want, or if she told you here name is something like Tracy, just call her Trisha. Either way, just keep calling her by whatever name you guessed and tell her it's way cuter than her real name. After a while she'll accept that you call her by a different name than everyone else. That's when you've hooked her. After that when you drop her real name, then she will be like money in the bank.

You could neg her on it: "Ha, what are we in like middle school...if i wana know your name ill just ask you. For now Chica/Bunny/Honey/Suga will have to do."

You could throw her a bigger hoop: "Well if we play that game then laddies first, you get to guess my name....ill give you a hint it starts with..."

You could ignore it with body language..afterall shes just saying this to look for attention. You said it yourself shes the hottest one, probably used to guys hanging on her every word, and you werent doing that...so she did the first thing that came to mind to get attention.

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I like Ka's idea of throwing it back at her. Make her guess your name. If she does it, you know you are doing good. And can reward her with guessing her name. However, keep in mind by doing this you are taking away a potential IOI from her; by doing this you are not allowing her to ask for your name.

I think you did just fine however. That is just a different approach. You are right, you don't jump through female's hoops. So make them jump yours

Yea that was good for me to get stuck. when things go good all the time, sometimes i don't feel like i learn to much. funny story, i went out the other night and sometimes i will start up a conversation with a girl, in a manor as if we already know eachother, and just talk to her using a name that i just make up...it's not always a good tactic, but it works good in a high energy type place. well i talked to this girl, and i just used the name michelle....and randomly enough, that was her name! she was a little weirded out, and when i told her how i just completely guessed it out of the blue we were both kind of amazed and hit it off instantly.

same night, i was at a different bar and met this georgious blond, definate 10, and i got to use the neg of all negs that we all read about!
I had perfect position, leaning up agains the bar, she is leaning in, asking me questions...
blond: so what do you do?
me: school, work, ect....what about u?
blond: I'm a model
me: (totally unimpressed) oh cool, like a hand model type deal?
blond: WHAT? NO, LIKE A MODEL IN MAGAZINES!
me: oh right, i just thought you would be more suited for like watches, or rings or something, that's all...

the night ended well, that is for sure! tonight i'm off to a wedding shower, i have high hopes for some beautiful women!!

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she was flirting with you, just play along and don't make a big deal out of it

you look like a porn star name... tracey?

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Superb

Youd be hard pressed to find a more effective tactic for dealing with this situation. Ill use this until my heart stops.

guess my name? thats begging for a negging.
hb:guess my name
pua:fido
V1V

Personally, I'd say "rumplestiltskin, right?" if she knows the story she'll think its hilarious, if she doesn't, neg her ass for not knowing anything about literature. Even though it is technically a fairy tail.