Although i met a couple of my ex's online, i feel like i have no luck on any of these sites, pof, tinder, match, okc,etc etc. I follow advice on blogs and such as to how to write your bio and set up your profile but seems like it does help much. It really does become depressing sometimes when you think of a great openining message for what feels like 100's of girls and get no response at all many of the times. Anyone having any luck on these and have any tips?

Tinder 2014-early2015 was a bang every week week for me lol. It's just a numbers game. Maybe you're following a shitty blog though. If your opener is something stupid like "what's your favourite movie of all time?" Then you might get a response from 1/40 girls. If your opener is a genuinely good one then you might get a response from 7/40 girls. Post your bio and opener.

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Tinder is a great place to meet women.

My personal estimation is that you need to be in the top 15 -20% of guys in profile strength to be able to get a decent number of matches and then you need to be also in the top 10% - 20% in terms of texting skills and being able to have fun conversations in order to get a date.

PICTURES: I m sure you read all kind of articles online covering this topic and the importance to have good pictures. You can start looking at male profiles and see the competition. It becomes so obvious which profiles stand out and which are likely to get pass.

PROFILE BIO
From my profile: In a short summary you can make statements that shows your standards, that says what you like and what you don't like, sound confident and show maybe a little bit of cockiness through humour.

MESSAGES:
Be creative and use whatever information you have in the profile description and pictures. It makes it much easier to send a message that will get response. And use emoticons to make it playful. I 'll give you an example.

Profile description
"cooking/baking/photos/ Georgia/exercise/Arctic monkeys
No hookups please"

Me: I once took a couple of cooking/baking photos when I was travelling in Georgia. That was after I finished my workout. But then I had to leave.. The told me "Sad to see you go.. Was sorta hoping that you 'd stay...
(music note emoticons)..." / That was lyrics from Arctic monkeys song

Her: That's an epic tinder message!!
I 'm really impressed

ME: More epic than games of thrones

As a first message try:
1) Make a fun statement related to her
2) Make a fun statement followed up with a question
3) Comment a picture and add some information about what that reminds you

Experiment with responses.

Have in mind that the more attractive / confident / high status you appear to be the more replies you will get.

Pof: http://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=78350712
Tinder: tinder.com/@ordep458

Tinder opener:
Me: I dont drink very much but I swear I invented a drink. Its rumchata mixed with Jack Daniel's Honey Whiskey. Ive never came up with a name for it though. Any Ideas?

Her profile:
Bartender * Mother of a cute 5 year old boy * Independent

I love to laugh, humor is very important to me.

You're not going to fine much hear that you're not going to fine on the thousands of blog post written on the subject.

I will say though that online dating has to be the easiest way to get laid. You can get laid twice month with just average game. However, the happiness you're not experiencing is largely due to you just not liking who you are. You're on a pick up artist forum..How often do you go out and approach women? How often do you take the risk that are the reason this site was even created?

You're not who you want to be, and settling for online dating short cuts instead of getting off your phone, and getting uncomfortable is not going to get you there as fast as actually getting out the house. You'll never develop what you don't need to. Online dating will not sharpen your game as effectively as getting off your ass. Boss up bro.

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EddieFews has it exactly right.

Online dating can kill personal development by providing you an anonymity buffer and reduce chances of personalization that is often experienced through real-world interactions.

It will not provide for you the social currency to be able to go out there and spark-up a convo with some random out on the street, in the cafe, club, school, beach, wherever. All too many times guys use online dating as a fall-back. They go out and see girls they're attracted to but if they don't pull the trigger no problem "I'll just go on POF or tinder later on and meet that someone". Worst mentality EVER.

Going out getting rejected is the best thing you can do for yourself. That jittery feeling you get just before the approach, wanting to vomit a little in your mouth, it's normal...it's awkward and it IS supposed to feel awkward (for both). Force yourself to get over that barrier and you will grow in infinite ways. U'll also likely meet a lot of cute girls who are responsive to you along the way. No more wondering what she looks like in person from a dozen selfies (taken at the 'right' angle, with the right makeup, and image over saturation to mask any lines/wrinkles/imperfections). Go out and meet the real deal, you'll know right off the bat if you're attracted (and them to you) without any second guessing. No more building up anticipation for a week, 2 maybe before the meet-up only to discover there's no attraction in person.

Not saying to never use online dating sites, but they're more a last resort or should be used VERY on the side (10% online and 90% offline approaches) if you want to sharpen your skills and evolve.

Is there anything more annoying than these women online who have their immediate profile shot, a huge close-up of their tits, ass or other provocative pose, and the very first line is "not interested in hook-up"....FOH.
Even the fat ones.

Anyway, now that's off my chest. I find it extremely time consuming and overwhelming to have to respond to so many of these women who are basically just seeking a cheap ego boost, or even once I'm building rapport with them, it's literally too much damn information to remember about each and every one. I just give up. Some days, I'm messaging back and forth with 6-7 girls. Sure, most end up the typical flakes and time wasters but they are the REASON it kind of defeats the whole purpose of choosing to want to invest in building that rapport.

I have seen the examples of "do not message me if you are 1) , 2), 3) "etc.
However, these days, I think most women find these types of profile lines as you being bitter or low value. Anyone have any suggestions to contradict that?

If you learn that rejection aint shit u'll be way more successfully offline than on. Least you can size the girl up right away instead of waiting day or even weeks before actually meeting.

You guys are right, i prefer online only because its much easier to 'approach' them this way for me. I fear rejection even online.

Ditch the online thing and go for real life pickup. I can see you going on dates even from online and being in fear of rejection. You can't simulate a real interaction behind a screen. I recommend practicing with real people first. Online dating is kind of like having a second car when you have already a nice one. You just want a second option. Treat online dating like that. Just another source but not your primary source.

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If, for example, you were going to be staying in London for a few weeks... there would be nothing wrong with doing some online dating to get some girls in your orbit ready. However, online dating should ALWAYS be your secondary thing. Don't be that smooth operator online that can't stop looking at the floor in person lol.

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