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did someone hack your account Bart ? I could have sworn you had some game on you like a year ago.

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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2016 3:12 am 
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did someone hack your account Bart ? I could have sworn you had some game on you like a year ago.
lol when did I ever have game.
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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2016 6:11 am 
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This is probably the biggest part of your problem. You go in expecting the worst. You approach what you believe is the worst and are surprised by positive results. You approach what you expect to be easy (for the typical guy) and you expect the worst. I don't know what you look like, besides what you describe as a typical guy, but your attitude is your worst enemy.
i think you're using the wrong word. it's not my attitude, it's my beliefs. it's easy to change your attitude, it's freaking hard to change beliefs that you've held all your life. I dont see all the evidence that contradicts my beliefs. even if I do see them, I will come up with some explanation that's in line with my beliefs so my currently held beliefs dont change. so for example: girl laughed at my joke? she wasn't attracted to me, she was pretending. whenever I see evidence that negates my beliefs, I interpret it in a way to agree with my current beliefs. look up "confirmation bias" - we tend to see only what confirms our beliefs and ignore everything else.
from the sounds of it, i guess your typical body language is always giving this 'negative' vibe: you're slouching, your facial expressions gives this angry/upset look, your body seems to confine itself in a close space. you'll definitely need to jump over the other end of the spectrum of inner game. for start, be positive, don't expect anything in return, live in abundance, always have curiosity. if a girl isn't attracted to you, then onto the next girl. and don't put all your marbles in humor.


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This Bart guy is funny. I don't think he's serious at all.


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PostPosted: Tue May 17, 2016 1:56 pm 
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Of course. 5 fucking years on a forum asking the same questions over and over. An internet troll with mental problems of another nature. Hopefully the mods will deal with him.


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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 8:18 pm 
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Bart! Glad to hear you're writing the results of the challenge down. Please post when you're ready and try not to take too long bro.

I'll respond to your discussion forum question soon.


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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 8:32 pm 
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[quote]i think you're using the wrong word. it's not my attitude, it's my beliefs. it's easy to change your attitude, it's freaking hard to change beliefs that you've held all your life. I dont see all the evidence that contradicts my beliefs. even if I do see them, I will come up with some explanation that's in line with my beliefs so my currently held beliefs dont change. so for example: girl laughed at my joke? she wasn't attracted to me, she was pretending. whenever I see evidence that negates my beliefs, I interpret it in a way to agree with my current beliefs. look up "confirmation bias" - we tend to see only what confirms our beliefs and ignore everything else.[quote]

Bart, it sounds like you have a lot of insight into yourself. Have you ever thought about trying to play a character when you approach people. Like, maybe you could play a role of a person who has confidence and believes in themselves? Have you ever heard of the term, "Fake it til' you make it?'

Also, what do you think you could do to combat those negative beliefs buddy?


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Bart, it sounds like you have a lot of insight into yourself. Have you ever thought about trying to play a character when you approach people. Like, maybe you could play a role of a person who has confidence and believes in themselves? Have you ever heard of the term, "Fake it til' you make it?'

Also, what do you think you could do to combat those negative beliefs buddy?
I have tried and I am pretty sure I am a good actor but the problem is, I don't know this character that I'm supposed to be. I don't know what he is like. I need to watch a movie and then when a situation comes up, I will ask myself "what would x do in this situation?" (x being the main character in the movie). some people will suggest james bond but I dont like that because I need a movie where the guy interacts with women. it has to be a romantic movie, something about love. james bond movies are too action oriented. something like simple pickup on youtube would not work because those are not characters. the guy approaches, gets the number, leaves in 30 seconds. meanwhile, I learned nothing about him. I need a full 2 hour movie to get to know and understand this character.

I dont know how I can combat those negative beliefs but I do know why I have them. I grew up a jew in an islamic country and you know muslims hate jews. so imagine going to the first grade and your teacher and classmates have something against you. imagine going to the second grade and you're "that weird guy" that nobody wants to be around. imagine going to the third grade and everybody treats you different and has a hostility towards you. This is why whenever I am in public I feel like I am weird, I am different, and everybody has something against me.


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I suggest focusing on inner game first. I've been in a similar case with you growing up, but it didn't solely stem from racial issue. I read Psycho-Cybernetics a few years back, a book that was recommended to me by a dating coach. (I didn't hire a mentor. It was one of those short free PUA calls to improve marketing.) It helped me change my perception of self and increased my self worth. There's still room to grow, but it pulled me into the right direction. If you read the first chapter, you'll most likely feel enlightened to finish the whole book.


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Bart, maybe don't think about it too much. Stop waiting for the perfect character from a movie to appear. Just think about a confident guy you've seen or that you know and pretend that you have that confidence. You don't have to be someone else, another person, just imagine a version of you that has confidence and believes in himself. Do you think you could imagine that?

Sorry to hear about being treated poorly when you were growing up dude. Nobody deserves that. But the past doesn't have to be your present. I'm guessing those people weren't hating on you for you bartm, the individual, or whatever your real name is, so try not to take it so personally.

Maybe people from the past didn't give you a chance, but you can give yourself a chance. Give yourself a chance bartm and don't continue that cycle of hate or abuse by hating on yourself and other people (women). Break the chain. I know you can.


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