So for the past couples of years or so my luck with women hasn't been that hot despite workin' at a bar. I began to get to the point to where I was ok with this and began to focus more on work, school, etc. Even women that were on another level of "hot" to other men I would merely look at and barely nod my head towards them just to imply that I was uninterested, as if to ween myself from the drive from needing the attention of a woman

Yesterday while seeing a freind and his girl, the girl mentions that she can see "desperation on my face".

Now sure, the opinion of one person shouldn't matter, but since my luck women hasn't been as consistent as I would like it to be, my body language issues should be addressed. I don't follow women or harass random ones on the street, but if me simply having a certain type of body language is what is screwing me up than I might need some advice.

What could it be?

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Is there any way you can record yourself candidly lol

May have to, wouldn't be a bad idea

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A good look and the right body language alone can get girls opening you and IOI'ing you like a king.
But that obviously isn't what you want to be going for.

Your expressions are basically an outward reflection of how you are feeling in that moment. So if you are feeling desperation, nervousness. Then this will be reflected too the whole world through sub-communications in your facial expressions, gestures, vocal tone, vibe, everything about you... and people with enough social intelligence and perceptiveness will pick up on it.

If you are feeling confident, calm and sexually centered... then this this is what you will project to the girls around you.

Fix the inner and it will reflect on the outside. But you can also make yourself aware when your body language is poor and constantly make adjustments and the mind state should follow...

Try leaning back more, taking up more room, using the space around you. Lean on things as though you own them, keep your chest area clear and don't scrunch up. This will make your voice clearer and deeper. Try to slow down your natural speed so you talk and move much slower. This will all make you feel more relaxed and at home in your own skin. Slow is also more confident and attractive. When you talk with girls, enjoy them being around you and they will pick up up on the positive feelings that you give. Emotions are contagious.

They are just a few tips for you too try out. I haven't even scratched the surface of the topic here and I could honestly write a book on body language and sub communication as it's one of the strongest points in my game. But just applying those few pointers you should start to notice a little difference in the way you feel and the way girls respond to you.

If I'm remembering your avatar, aren't you the bear looking guy? Like tons of muscle, but also very fat?

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yea i'm that guy

and while there is no excuse for me to be able to lose some fat, my body composition is naturally prone to being that way. So even at a lower BFP i'd still look somewhat fat.

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I guess you can work on losing some weight and read some books on Body Language.

Learning body language is essential to your progress, where you can spot liars.

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Then why are you here?

FYI.. Sounds like you have a fragile mentality if you came here to make a post about the words of one person. That mentality will naturally transition into your body language. Unless you know yourself to be desperate I can't see why you would care. She could've just been testing you, baiting for a reaction, looking to see if her assessment was accurate; needing your confirmation to validate it.

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I could not have care less about this one girl's opinion.

However I thought it would be smart to take care of the problem before I came in contact with a woman that I actually did care about what she thought

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All I can say is, whatever sticking point you're having, looking good is usually the best cure for it. The better looking you are, the lower the bar for everything. You have a very impressive body under the fat. I think you'll see your results really take off if you can drop it. It leans your face down and makes you more handsome. And it just really helps overall. Especially if you prefer thinner girls. I sometimes see pretty chubby girls with heavy guys, but almost never see it with slim chicks.

I'm not a naturally good looking guy. If I had the typical skinny fat American body, skin care routine, and style, I would be a near virgin(if not flat out, assuming my standards stayed the same). I never really spent a ton of time working on anything like "game". I pretty much focused on improving my looks as much as I could. That yielded me some pretty darn good results. Charisma and personality do play a role. But it's really secondary. And it's more useful for netting a higher % of the girls who are already physically attracted to you.

I can tell you that I've dated a couple of girls who weren't physically attracted to me. I wouldn't suggest it. They're basically the only "bad" relationships I've had. And it's because the girl feels like she's sacrificing something(a sexy guy) by being with me. With what experience I have with that, I wouldn't even *want* to get women who don't think I'm at least somewhat attractive.

tl;dr Screw game, body language, etc, and get sexy. Sexy trumps smooth, every time. And it's a lot easier to improve your looks than all the other stuff. Worry about the other stuff, after you're close to your best looking self(body, clothes, hair, skin, style).

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by improving your looks, are you referring to dressing well?

Of course

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No, I'm mostly referring to losing copious amounts of fat.

Fat guys dressing swag is vastly inferior to lean muscular guys(and he has a shit ton of muscle), dressing in a form fitting $5 t-shirt and Wal-Mart jeans.

Clothes can make a difference, but are nowhere near as important as your body and face.

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Interesting. The books I have been reading go against what you all have said.

Versalis, What do you have to say about this article? Halfway down.

http://www.themodernman.com/blog/how-to ... r-you.html