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I thought it would give one some edge if he were to "rehearse" some canned openers before gaming.

By "rehearsing" this, I mean to actually go in front of a mirror, practice each gesture, the tone and pitch of the voice, the facial expressions, etc. to get the maximum effect of the desired reaction from the woman.

It's kind of like rehearsing for a public speaking event.

What do you think? Might this make me seem lacking in "congruence"?

Thanks!

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But practicing in a mirror makes you look like a bad actor. I mostly try to improvise on the spot. I have an arsenal of emergency replies in my head and then I use them when needed. Always have a counter-reply ready for the question you ask. This makes the game more natural and flowing.
Ok, this worked for me. Recently I have become speechless when speaking to girls, I dont know why. But it just happens. But the techniques described above worked for me before

Nothing wrong with this at all.

Every professional sports team runs practice drills and warms up in training for the entire week before a game.

Just make sure you do eventually go out and deliver your opener to a girl you find attractive.
Natural Game still has a framework.

That's true. Nothing comes by a coincidence. I am speechless myself when around a girl, so I might not be 100% correct in my statements Thanks

I don't think this is comparable to a public speaking event. You cannot rehearse and entire conversation since conversations can go any which way. You're not giving the women a speech. You're opening them and then engaging their emotions in conversation thats relevant to the feeling of that moment.

Nothings going to actually prepare you for opening a woman than actually getting out there and doing it. Whats an opener anyway? Its not like girls drop their panties or hand over their phone numbers immediately after being hit with a amazingly delivered opener. You're spending time rehearsing the easiest most meaningless part of the entire interaction. I can't help but feel like there are better ways to use your time. Like actually rehearsing by approaching. Its not like you're going to run out of women to talk to.

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OP doesn't mean rehearse the entire interaction. He is on about practicing his 'openers'.
That will not prepare you. Preparation is what happens before an event, not the event itself. The night before a test a student might prepare by doing revision, going over the possible questions that may come up and making sure that they feel ready for what is to come. A gymnast might do a few stretches similar to the moves that they are going to try and pull of in their performance just before they go on stage. An old warrior might sharpen his blade and practice his strikes before he goes to war. You get the point...

So before you hit the club or go out with the intention of picking up girls you might want to prepare by practicing a few openers in the mirror. Making sure that you have the right body language, tonality ect...

An opener is something you use to start an interaction with a girl. It is particularly useful for setting the frame of the interaction when done properly.

It might not be all of the interaction. There are many different elements of a seduction and the opener is just one. You still have to go out and try to take girls through the entire process and learn all of the parts to the song you are playing.

Practicing your openers in the mirror will not get you laid alone, but it might make a guy feel a little more confident in himself to be at least a little prepared to make his move when he does finally run into a women that he wants to talk to.

As long as he does actually go out and open girls afterwards and get the live experience, learning where it really matters. Otherwise, he's just a numpty who is wasting his time.

I think you need to reread what I wrote. That was blatant.

This rest of what you said was elaborating on the obvious, all while agree with my entire premise.

Thanks though.

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Well no, I didn't agree with your premise. I think you should re-read what I wrote.

Your advice actually doesn't make sense. When preparation is done before an event takes place, then how do you prepare to open by opening? OP Was asking whether it was beneficial to practice a few openers in the mirror to prepare him for interactions before going out, I agree'd that it is.

You seemed to be against the premise by asking "what is an opener anyway" and acting as though it wasn't even an important part of a pick up. When in fact, your opener and the way you deliver it is an integral part of a pick up, along with many other aspects of your game.

I think you'll find that opening an audience and engaging their emotions in conversation thats relevant to the feeling of that moment is exactly what somebody performing a public speaking events goal is to do.

My premise.

Tip of the iceberg berg.

A speech is an event. A battle is an event. A test is an event. Approaching women is an on going process that includes an unlimited source of women to "rehearse" with. This isn't a one time shot that one needs to perfect before engaging. The saved time in front of the mirror is bettered used sharping your sword getting the full experience. The greatest most perfected and rehearsed opener in the world will get you nothing alone. However, an average opener with a great follow up game will get you everything. Get out and practice your follow up, fuck practicing how to perfectly say "hello" in a mirror.

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Don't twist things. You did not at all say that it won't get you laid alone. You said that nothing will prepare you for approaching a woman other than going out and doing it. Which doesn't make sense. You also then alluded to the point that the approach is the most meaningless part of the interaction, and made the point that there are numerous women to approach in the world.

Like I said... you don't prepare for an event by doing the event. Preparation is what you do beforehand. Are you honestly suggesting that a pick up and seduction isn't an event? There are many different types of events. When a man seduces a woman, that is the event of seduction. Are you denying this? Also, you could say there is an unlimited amount of speeches that you can give, that doesn't take away from the fact that it is an event.

Do you prepare food by eating it? LOL.

Also, approaching is not the most meaningless part of the interaction. It is very important that you make a good approach. First impressions count. The moment you approach a girl she will get a feel for you. Every single thing that you sub communicate will be displayed to her and she will pick up on your feeling state and emotions at the time. Your words are also important and the way you say them is. It has to be calibrated to the situation and set the right frame. Your opener and the way you deliver it is very important.

Of course the rest of the pick up is important after that. And you can recover. But don't you think it will go a hell of a lot smoother if your opener was on point and set the frame nicely for the interaction? Something that, I don't know, maybe if you'd of practiced it a few times in the mirror before you went out you might do a little better at when it comes to the event of making the approach.

Are you actually going to back up any of your initial points this time or just dodge them by quoting one of my lines and trying to make it look like I'm re-stating what you said, whilst really I'm highlighting how flawed your statements were in terms of getting success in a pick up?

The bolded letters says what? From my initial post. You're not going to get panties or a phone number from just an opener alone. So thats exactly what I said. Which is why I suggested you reread.

This is like the OP asking " If I shoot in the air without a basketball in my room during the day with that help me perfect my form" and I'm saying " OP you have a basketball count in your backyard, why not just practice your form taking actual shots." I'm not disagreeing that "A" can have some minute improvement on your approach , I'm saying that doing B takes care of A. Its two birds with one stone. So save your time and get out there and shoot the ball. Going out and practicing your opener in front of women will teach you more than practicing it front of the mirror.

The new guys are so hellbent on trying to disagree with the vets to establish creditability that they miss whats being said. Hundreds of have came with the same tactic. Human nature.

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To be honest mate, a great opener can get her to hand over her phone number in a very small window interaction. The way you open at times like these may be the difference between whether she hands over the number or not. In terms of making her panties wet, probably not, that will happen further down the line in the seduction. But you'd be stupid to say that the opener or the way you open is the most meaningless part of the interaction, when in fact it is very important and can make your pick up a whole lot easier.
No it's not. OP's question was whether practicing before he goes out would give him a bit of an edge when he finally made his approach. A guy who spends a few hours warming up on the court before a game of basketball practicing his shots and mimicking his plays (just like all professional athletes do before they go onto a pitch) will definitely be better PREPARED for the game that they are about to play. Of course you can only learn how to go through the whole seduction by doing it. But this doesn't detract that preparing beforehand might make life a little easier when you do go out to do the approach? Do you understand now?
Say what you want bro. But I know my experience and I know my credibility. I don't give a fuck about what anybody on here thinks about me really. I do my own thing. That's the way I've been for a very long time now and I'm more successful in pick up because of it. I'm not the one who is on here to leech on newbs and promote my SPAM coaching sessions. I'm on here because I love game and I love pick up. I have no credibility to build and I have no credibility to protect. I'm just giving advice and posting because I like game and have learnt a lot through pick up over the last three years. When I answer a question, I'm just sharing experiences from lessons that I've learnt through being out and in the field.

The reason I have disagree'd with you is because your answer didn't actually make sense. You seemed to jumble everything up and completely miss the point of OP's initial question, and since then you've not answered one question that I've proposed to you so that you can back up your points.

So...

Do you disagree that practicing a few openers in the mirror and making sure your body language and posture is on point before you go out might prepare you a little for making your approach when the time finally arises to make it?

How do you prepare to approach a girl by approaching a girl? I'm still waiting for an answer to this one. Because as I've said, preparation is something that happens before an event. You don't prepare whilst the event is happening? Am I mixing up the meaning of preparation or something or are you just mentally not getting this?

Is 'opening them and then engaging their emotions in conversation that's relevant to the feeling of that moment' not something that somebody who is giving a speech at a speaking event not doing?

Do you really think that opening is the most meaningless part of a seduction? Do you not think that opening well can make the ride a lot smoother for yourself and give a good first impression and set the right frame when done properly?