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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 9:51 am 
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The location has a bar downstairs for chilling and talking, a club upstairs for dancing.

My single friend and I spent the evening in the bar with a bunch of friends. We were being dared to use cheesy chat up lines on different women in the bar - works a treat as openers. "Is your hand heavy? I could hold it for you?" etc. Our social proof was very good until most people migrated upstairs at midnight to dance.

We danced for an hour but returned downstairs, and we sat on a sofa in a largely empty bar.

SUDDENLY two girls bounded over to us and sat down with us. They were looking for coke. "We should get some coke together". I said things like "If you're only here for the coke I'm not down" and "You've just come to hit on us haven't you".

For 45 mins we chatted and they didn't mention coke again. We had a little dance together, we told them stories, they were both showering us with IOIs. Touching, long eye contact, lots of flirting. Looked like it was in the bag. I'd given one of them my scarf; a long, black, tassly thing. I love it.

The place closed so my friend and I went to collect our coats. It took two minutes, and the girls had run off. Nowhere to be seen. They stole my fucking scarf.

I am genuinely confused as to what happened. They were flirtatious, responsive, we didn't buy them drinks etc.

Please be a detective. Ask me questions and make me realise what we did wrong.

Thanks!


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 30, 2016 11:12 pm 
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The location has a bar downstairs for chilling and talking, a club upstairs for dancing.

My single friend and I spent the evening in the bar with a bunch of friends. We were being dared to use cheesy chat up lines on different women in the bar - works a treat as openers. "Is your hand heavy? I could hold it for you?" etc. Our social proof was very good until most people migrated upstairs at midnight to dance.

We danced for an hour but returned downstairs, and we sat on a sofa in a largely empty bar.

SUDDENLY two girls bounded over to us and sat down with us. They were looking for coke. "We should get some coke together". I said things like "If you're only here for the coke I'm not down" and "You've just come to hit on us haven't you".

For 45 mins we chatted and they didn't mention coke again. We had a little dance together, we told them stories, they were both showering us with IOIs. Touching, long eye contact, lots of flirting. Looked like it was in the bag. I'd given one of them my scarf; a long, black, tassly thing. I love it.

The place closed so my friend and I went to collect our coats. It took two minutes, and the girls had run off. Nowhere to be seen. They stole my fucking scarf.

I am genuinely confused as to what happened. They were flirtatious, responsive, we didn't buy them drinks etc.

Please be a detective. Ask me questions and make me realise what we did wrong.

Thanks!
You didn't escalate enough. They were having fun and there may have been the possibility for more but you guys were unwilling to escalate. Without that escalation, nothing's going to happen.

A woman having fun and enjoying herself does not mean that she will give it up.


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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 11:44 pm 
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The location has a bar downstairs for chilling and talking, a club upstairs for dancing.

My single friend and I spent the evening in the bar with a bunch of friends. We were being dared to use cheesy chat up lines on different women in the bar - works a treat as openers. "Is your hand heavy? I could hold it for you?" etc. Our social proof was very good until most people migrated upstairs at midnight to dance.

We danced for an hour but returned downstairs, and we sat on a sofa in a largely empty bar.

SUDDENLY two girls bounded over to us and sat down with us. They were looking for coke. "We should get some coke together". I said things like "If you're only here for the coke I'm not down" and "You've just come to hit on us haven't you".

For 45 mins we chatted and they didn't mention coke again. We had a little dance together, we told them stories, they were both showering us with IOIs. Touching, long eye contact, lots of flirting. Looked like it was in the bag. I'd given one of them my scarf; a long, black, tassly thing. I love it.

The place closed so my friend and I went to collect our coats. It took two minutes, and the girls had run off. Nowhere to be seen. They stole my fucking scarf.

I am genuinely confused as to what happened. They were flirtatious, responsive, we didn't buy them drinks etc.

Please be a detective. Ask me questions and make me realise what we did wrong.

Thanks!
You didn't escalate enough. They were having fun and there may have been the possibility for more but you guys were unwilling to escalate. Without that escalation, nothing's going to happen.

A woman having fun and enjoying herself does not mean that she will give it up.

Was literally going to say "so are we going to your place or ours?" when I returned to them. Woops!


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PostPosted: Tue May 03, 2016 3:45 pm 
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You guys were all drunk. Drink people have short attention spans. You basically left them so they left you. These girls probably went in search of an afterparty if they were trying to get Coke whenbu first talked. Maybe some dude walked by and said party at his place and they left with him maybe they thought you guys left and dipped. Maybe they just got drunk girl ADD and just sort of wandered off. It was closed after all. Did you tell them you would be right back? If I had given that scarf the move would be easy. " I'm getting my coat. Come with me for a second." Then you put your arm around her and lead her to coat check. This accomplishes many things. 1. It prevents her from dipping unexpectedly like she did. 2. It's casual kino 3. You go with her and leave you buddy with the other. You both have now isolated your respective chicks 4. Saying and doing something like this casually shows you are an assertive man who leads. Women love to follow and they love confidence. This move if done properly oozes masculine strength. If you don't do it right it would backfire. Tell her what to do. Women love being told what to do.

In this situation there are many variables. Maybe they were just killing time and had plans to go somewhere. Maybe they were feeling sick from drinking too much and wanted to dip without explaining that. Maybe when you left a guy walked up to them and brought them home. These girls were clearly down to party. Girls like that are chasing the dragon as they say. They may have been having fun with you but someone came around and offered them the potential for more fun than they thought they'd have with you. Focus on what you can control and improve on that. Going to get your coat with your buddy and ditching the girls was a tactical error. Maybe they weren't into you and were waiting for a chance to run. You won't know know because you allowed them to make their choice on their terms. Force them to make it on your terms. You do this by setting the frame and seeing if they object. "I'm getting my coat. Come with me." Now put your arm around her and get your shit. "Are we going to my place or yours now?" If she is interested the answer would come out. Favorable or not at least you would know. It's shot selection right? You were so afraid to miss you took too long and didn't even get a shot off. Miss the shot. Get your shot fucking blocked. Maybe you'll make it. You gotta fucking take it and too soon is better than too late. People appreciate boldness and despise timidity.


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The location has a bar downstairs for chilling and talking, a club upstairs for dancing.

My single friend and I spent the evening in the bar with a bunch of friends. We were being dared to use cheesy chat up lines on different women in the bar - works a treat as openers. "Is your hand heavy? I could hold it for you?" etc. Our social proof was very good until most people migrated upstairs at midnight to dance.

We danced for an hour but returned downstairs, and we sat on a sofa in a largely empty bar.

SUDDENLY two girls bounded over to us and sat down with us. They were looking for coke. "We should get some coke together". I said things like "If you're only here for the coke I'm not down" and "You've just come to hit on us haven't you".

For 45 mins we chatted and they didn't mention coke again. We had a little dance together, we told them stories, they were both showering us with IOIs. Touching, long eye contact, lots of flirting. Looked like it was in the bag. I'd given one of them my scarf; a long, black, tassly thing. I love it.

The place closed so my friend and I went to collect our coats. It took two minutes, and the girls had run off. Nowhere to be seen. They stole my fucking scarf.

I am genuinely confused as to what happened. They were flirtatious, responsive, we didn't buy them drinks etc.

Please be a detective. Ask me questions and make me realise what we did wrong.

Thanks!
It's not what you did do, it's what you didn't do.

Did you isolate?

Make a move?

Change location?

Pick one out of the heard?

Get sexual?

Escalate?

Forget it was free gay scarf day?

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