Hey guys, I this interesting experience. I'm sure things get posted like this quite a lot but, this is my own version of game and my personal experience. So I was walking down the strip last night and seen two girls and wanted to talk but just froze up.

Basically, I used to be good with girls and what you say does mater to a degree. Like I've lost a lot of my personality. I end up qualifying to the girl, not wanting to lose her, I lost so many pro mindsets and little idiosyncrasies I'd say and do. I forgot a lot.

I used to read some really good posts on here but I can't find them anymore (I tried searching but couldn't find anything good). Can someone please help me. Like I don't know what to say to a girl to begin with, I'm too easy, and then if I get there number I don't know what to text. Can someone walk me through the whole thing. Also, if have any links or anything please share. I really need help guys.

Walk through the whole thing? Shit...brother you better use that search bar. And there are plenty of stickies around the website. Start reading! Attraction is merely an emotion, how you elicit it...well...

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Girl x: how much time does it take to go from here to there?

2 possible answers:
A) 5 minutes
B) Don't worry princess frog, your 20 inch heels won't break in the walk.


The first one is a logical answer. So boring as seeing Bush talking.
The second one not quite so. It's actually flirting.


Now start using the search feature instead of being lazy.

Hey guys, thanks so much for your kind replies. Well, I'll start here. My game isn't effecient. There are times when I have no clue what to do.

And haha, I'm not lazy, I've searched, there's so many methods/ways I either couldn't find the right thing or seem to find the right thing. Are there any walk throughs/links you'd guys recommend or users, etc

Yes. Go out and start talking to girls. As time goes by, you'll what works and what doesn't work.

Hey man, I appreciate your effort and in a sense you're 100% right. However for me it's a bit different. I have some things that sort of prevent me from just going into field unarmed. So, it won't really do much for me. Like my mind goes seriously blank and I won't know what I'm doing or where to lead the convo. Hence, it would be easier if I had a small piece of reading material I can memorize or a video then I can go in the field and tare it up. I've already been going in field and making things up. And it's the same results I've seen so I'm going back to the drawing board.

So I hope you can understand where I'm coming from.

Unless you're mute, or live in a place where there are no women, I call it bullshit.
No matter how many videos you see, the only way of overcoming you difficulty is to practice in field with no agenda.
Do it, because you're just telling bullshit reasons not to do what you want to do.

I already do go in field, are you reading the comment correctly? Seriously, man. I'm not speaking another language it's pretty simple to see where I'm coming from. Do you plan on actually giving some conducive information? If not just don't bother cause you're wasting everyone's time. I wouldn't say I had a reason if it wasn't legitimate. I understand you have an opinion, but I'm not here to lie.

Looks like somebody is a little cranky.
You want someone to do everything for you, that's why you're unwilling to use the search feature to, well, search if there is any thread that can help you (in your case, there are dozens). So the one who's wasting everybody's time is you little fellow, my time actually, since nobody else is answering you.
Having said that, use the search feature -> here's another constructive advice from me. Use it, because I seriously doubt anyone in this forum, apart from newbies, is going to waste their time answering you.

Brother, you've just misunderstood me. It just makes me wonder if you're actually reading what I'm saying and if you were you wouldn't be saying what you are. There's no need to be so sensitive or defensive. It's just a conversation. I have looked in the search bar, found a few things but wanted to know if there were better ones I haven't come across. Unfortunately I have to repeat that cause you didn't get it the first time. You're just here to troll and act tough. No one cares, get a life.

Bro, welcome back. I perfectly understand your situation. You tried fixing the career part of your life so you can be more independent and alpha and during that focused process, you probably relegated sarging in the back burner for several weeks. In short, you'll need to freshen up your muscle memory a bit.

When I first signed up in this forum in 2012 (I think), I felt I wasn't really doing great with women. But I know I'm a good fuck. The only problem was, I didn't know back then how I got those women towards the f-close. So I had to learn and better understand the approach, opening and isolation process.

You probably know by now that there are several ways to skin a cat. Some ways are inefficient, some just don't work, some work a few times and fail several times. It's really rare that one way will work most of the time.

Of course, seduction isn't linear. When an opportunity opens, you can really f-close a girl that you just met at a party right then and there. There's no need to apply all of the bells and whistles of pick up, when all of the signs indicate that you've got to slam your bratwurst in her cheeseburger.

The basic pattern that works for me very efficiently is something like this:

1. Approach - Either the girl or I do the approach.

2. Open - Either the girl or I do the opening.

3. Isolation Bounce - Here, I initiate the instadate so I can isolate her away from her friends.

4. Isolation to the apartment - It's quite rare that I get same day lays for day game. This usually happens on Day 2s.

5. F-close.

What to Say

1. Approach.

Here, you don't need to say anything. You simply close the distance. 3 to 4 feet away from the girl is best. I had girls approach me and close the distance really close where they rubbed their breasts on my arm, rubbed their ass on my crotch, or rubbed their hand on my abs. Technically, approach has two variations: a) You approach the girl; and b) the girl approaches you.

2. Open.

When a girl does the approach, she will usually open with, "Hi." In this sense, it doesn't really matter if your opening is a simple, "Hi" most especially when the girl gave you an approach invite. An approach invite is a set of nonverbal signs initiated by the girl when she is too shy to approach.

When a girl says, "Hi", you should immediately execute a compliance test. Mirror her "Hi" with "Hello" and then shoot your hand out for a handshake. This is your first compliance test. "I'm Radiohead. What's your name?" At this point, hold her hand a tad bit longer. If she tries to pull her hand back, don't let go. Pull her closer instead. This is your second compliance test. When the girl shows no further resistance, you're good. Proceed with the isolation bounce. This is your 3rd compliance test.

3. Isolation Bounce.

a) Let's go.

b) Let's go over there.

c) Let's get some refreshments.

There will be several variations but the basic is the "Let's" or "Let us." Once you get the instadate, move the girl around the area so she will feel that she had known you for a long time and feel really comfortable. Here, the girl should be very comfortable with your hand holding already.

During your isolation bounces, watch out for the nonverbal signs that the girl wants to fuck. Some of these include:

- Her rubbing her breast at your arm. Covertly rub your elbow at her nipple when you get this nonverbal sign.

- Her rubbing her ass at your crotch. Well, covertly grind your cock at her ass but be careful that she won't look like a slut especially when there are too many people around.

- Her rubbing your abs. Mirror her. Rub her belly slightly just above her pussy area. This means below her navel and closer to her pussy.

- Her covertly taking glances at your crotch. Rub her hand at your knees. If she's comfortable with that, rub her hand at your thigh; not too close to your cock though. When she's comfortable with that, rub her hand closer to your cock. If she's comfortable with that, rub her hand at your crotch.

4. Isolation to your apartment. A simple "Let's go" will do when you have managed to get the girl super horny in #3.


5. F-close.

That's the basic gist of it all. Of course, you will need filler convos (verbal communication) but it's best if you focused on the nonverbals and the basic verbals identified above. We can discuss the filler convos later once you got the nonverbal and verbal basics down to muscle memory.

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