A HB9 from one of my classes added me on fb in December last year and asked me if we had any work due that week, we carried on talking (on fb, not in person) and found out we had a lot in common!

Arranged several times to meet her before class for a coffee and she agreed but then flaked 2-3 times. I gave her a copy of her rare favourite film she recommended from abroad after having watched it in March.

She then started messaging me again, despite me going virtually no contact. I bumped into her in the library just before we finished for Easter, then we went to get a coffee (finally).

During Easter holidays she messaged me first 3/4 times (I only started conversation once). I bumped into her Monday and went to hug her and she either didn't see it coming or rejected me stone cold. Either way it must have looked hilarious.

We then met up for another coffee after class this week. She's been messaging me (first) most days and even double messaging once or twice when I don't reply. Despite this, I saw her again in the library yesterday, we spoke for 10 mins then she asked her friend if she wanted to go smoke, I teased her for smoking (HB9 and she said she didn't it was just her friend) Wondered if she was trying to not be keen but wtf really

Anyway, today she sent me 3/4 messages on snapchat.

I'm not sure at all now to proceed from here. I do like her quite a lot, but it's been quite a struggle... I think the flaking initially was due to the fact we hadn't actually ever spoken in person, as since then she's been much more keen with me. All advice appreciated guys!

High five her.

You: "Hey what's up?"

If she mirrors your high five, hold her hand a tad bit longer. Do this many times during the course of your interaction with her-- each time holding her hand longer than usual until you are using her hand to rub on your thigh and so on. When you feel that her hand is warmer than usual and she clears her throat several times in a row, isolate her somewhere private.

Btw, every time you hold her hand, look deep in her eyes with 100% lust. During these interactions, avoid looking at her private parts; just her eyes.

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This is a pick up artist forum and you're asking questions about one girl you're playing phone tag with that you see around school from time to time... Just keep that in mind.

Simple answer to this question is: you have yet to take the bull by the horns and man up. The girl flaked on you and then what? You saw her on campus and what did you do? You had casual conversation and then played phone games all while crossing your fingers hoping for something to magically happen. In what world does that work out?

What you should of did was see her on campus, approach her, playfully call her out on flaking, and then ask her if she's coming out with you or not in person. You get a positive response and you proceed, you get an iffy one then you cut it loose and resume your life in which you can easily get another woman.

You have to lead. It seems like you're waiting on her to show you something to motivate you. You don't really want her if thats the case. If you really wanted her and didn't just have some mental infatuation with her you would get her.

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Make her want to meet up with you. Girls won't turn down a fun time with a fun guy. It seems like you are being too logical about things. It sounds like you are still in a campus environment. YOU CAN easily, easily, run game on her if you run into her at the library. IT will be crucial for you to use the times you see her on campus to run game in person, do anything, I can't remember how many times I chatted up girls after class and turned it into some opportunity.


Also, keeping a few girls around you as social proof will help

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Thanks for all the advice guys. She sent me several snapchats over the weekend, then messaged me yesterday asking how my exam went. I replied but only briefly.

Went for a coffee with her after class today. Then visited her a few times on breaks from the library. I said we should do something soon that wasn't go to Starbucks, and she said "what's wrong with Starbucks?" Looking offended and I told her it was boring.

I suggested we get food after my test Friday and she said we should talk about it Friday morning. I mentioned it again when I saw her for the last time in the library after I had lost my wallet. She told me I need to find my wallet first, I said well obviously! She seemed to change conversation topic quickly when I mentioned meeting up properly. She did talk to me quite a lot about other the stuff though. We were a bit more physical today I.e. Pushing each other etc

She then left, I found out my friends taken my wallet home accidentally and I've just received a text from her saying "Did you find it????"

Thinking about going no contact and seeing if she bothers messaging me Friday. Feels bad man...

Why would you go no contact...

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Take the bull by the horns man. All I can really say. Be assertive. Cut out all the "back and forth" when you see her make sure your intentions are clear. Make a move.. Touch her, tell her to give you a hug, let her know that she can buy the coffee this time and when you get your wallet you'll get the next one. Make strong moves bro. You don't want to be in that flimsy limbo area where you're waiting on a girl to tell you whether or not you're a friend.

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Did you hold her hand?

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I did make my intentions clear through telling her I wanted to do something. I suggested going for a drink to a bar where they have live music first but again she changes conversation topic. I'm getting fed up with this but I really like her. I'm trying to meet up with other girls to counteract these oneitis tendencies...

You do realize you're being a tool right?

I get it, you like her. Does she like you back? well, she either:

1. Does, and she's doing an absolutely horrific job at.. well.. being normal and accepting a fucking date invite with the guy she likes.

2. Doesn't. And keeps you around for the attention.

So you're being a tool because you're either giving her a ridiculous amount of second chances, doing literally all the work for her and still she can't be bothered, or you're chasing a girl that has no interest in you around like a little lap dog.

Some of you guys need to learn the importance of having even a basic amount of self worth.

PS: I gave you two options just to put things into perspective. But no, she's not interested in you in any kind of sexual way. Because you've been fucking around since December and nothing of any relevance happened. Next time, be more assertive and true to your intentions.

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Got a message from her today of a video of a band she couldn't believe I had never heard of, telling me to watch it. Didn't get round to replying to that or her text about finding my wallet as I've been busy doing work.

Saw her today in the library although didn't speak to her as I bumped into one of my friends (a HB9) who kissed me (she's French) in front of her and then we went outside for a break together. Just going to see now if she bothers messaging me tomorrow

[quote="confusedkid"]Got a message from her today of a video of a band she couldn't believe I had never heard of, telling me to watch it. Didn't get round to replying to that or her text about finding my wallet as I've been busy doing work.

Saw her today in the library although didn't speak to her as I bumped into one of my friends (a HB9) who kissed me (she's French) in front of her and then we went outside for a break together. Just going to see now if she bothers messaging me tomorrow[/quote]

And then what will you do? Get all mellow over a relatively random text? Or be happy because, well, a girl texted you?

She texted me a couple of hours ago saying "Good luck for tomorrow:)" I'm trying to organise something with another girl tomorrow but do you think I should message HB9 tomorrow about getting food?

So you're one of those guy that will just ignore the truth when it's not what they want to hear huh?

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She's not attracted to you. She feels you're attracted to her. She wants the attention, ergo, you're her orbiter. You're wasting your time on this one.
By the way, she doesn't care 1/100 about as you as you do about her, so why are you making such an effort?