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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:48 pm 
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Co dependents and narcissists make strange (but common) bed mates. Narcissist wants to be idolized, co dependent wants to be accepted so does whatever it takes to cater to narcissists' drives.
What's sad is that the epiphany came here after months of useless chatter and so much input from people who didn't know what they were talking about and giving the OP the ability to pick and choose the people he wanted to hear and ignore everyone else. It could have been so fast and easy if it was done somewhere appropriate...but this is a pickup forum.
@JackZero no one. on or off the forum, can help you if you don't want help.He didn't have an epiphany - SHE left HIM. I doubt that the situation would have been different anywhere else, because OP would simply have done the same (pick and choose the information he wants to hear). I have several close friends like this - when I look them in the eye and tell them what they need to do to fix THEMSELVES they often literally avoid me, because they know it's true but dont want to hear it.


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Anyhow, Skinny, if having to name or diagnose what she is helps you move on then so be it. It likely won't get you any closure, however, as the more you focus on her, what she's doing, characterizing her - ANYTHING focused on her, the slower your progress will become.

You're deep in a rumination cycle and that's most often a catalyst to depression, if you're not already in one. The more you allow this to consume you, the more you'll find yourself isolated as friends, and others will begin to pull away out of frustration from hearing your war story everytime they speak with you. Beyond that you can't expect to have an audience here for very long with people who have little to no investment in you to sit and read you drone on and on and on about her, and what you're doing to demonstrate you're moving on (which looks like window dressing and validation-seeking behavior to be honest).

Have a few people close to you you can confide in, journal as well as another member suggested, and stick with YOUR experience meaning your feelings, what's going on in you and keep her out of the conversation. That's my best advice I can give you as to where you're at and moving forward right now.
I don't want to answer with the things that he and I were talking about, but his diagnosis of her is one sided because he had to admit his personality type before he understood what was wrong with her and how they were toxic for each other.

I'm not sure about R.C's role in it, but he and I usually think alike. So whatever I was saying, he was probably saying at the same exact time.
Co dependents and narcissists make strange (but common) bed mates. Narcissist wants to be idolized, co dependent wants to be accepted so does whatever it takes to cater to narcissists' drives.

I presume this thread will be closed too. I will journal here on the thread... should I do it in the field reports section?

I have to admit, reading that article for a moment gave me great happiness, it was as if I labelled and found who she was, I went to bed and slept well, and then woke up as if a reset button had been pushed and then felt it all over again and started to miss her. I dont even know why I would miss someone who did the things she did to me but I do, and youre right, we arent together because she doesnt want to talk or see me. I dont know if that will ever change. And that kills me that it got to that point.


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Co dependents and narcissists make strange (but common) bed mates. Narcissist wants to be idolized, co dependent wants to be accepted so does whatever it takes to cater to narcissists' drives.
What's sad is that the epiphany came here after months of useless chatter and so much input from people who didn't know what they were talking about and giving the OP the ability to pick and choose the people he wanted to hear and ignore everyone else. It could have been so fast and easy if it was done somewhere appropriate...but this is a pickup forum.
@JackZero no one. on or off the forum, can help you if you don't want help.He didn't have an epiphany - SHE left HIM. I doubt that the situation would have been different anywhere else, because OP would simply have done the same (pick and choose the information he wants to hear). I have several close friends like this - when I look them in the eye and tell them what they need to do to fix THEMSELVES they often literally avoid me, because they know it's true but dont want to hear it.
You're coming at the problem from a rational logic driven pov when it's more a emotional attachment issue. A person won't be receptive to what you tell them while in an addictive cycle. That's why your friends probably stopped talking to you because they aren't getting the empathy they need and insteaD are receiving diagnoses and problem solving.

If things were so simple addicts wouldn't exists nor would co dependents or any other abusive patterns.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:09 pm 
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I thought knowing her 'diagnosis', and what or who she is would help me, I guess it does calm me down as it helps me not take full blame for the situation. Still hurts that she won the break up and is in full control, and left it never looking back because I realize she never will, it was a victory, a battle won.

I know I need help, I will talk to my parents about a therapist but I dont think they will like that or want that. I also will journal here.


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No, I didnt enjoy the abuse, I hated it. I dont understand what you mean by, 'this girl didnt even sound like a great abuser'... how can someone even be a great abuser...
She wasn't even an abuser that was stringing you along or promising to change.. That's a "good" abuser.

Look the problem I have with you assessing her personality to find happiness is... So what? What if the next girl hits you and doesn't display those other qualities? Are you gonna blame yourself and stay? My point is... There is no reason for someone to hit you. Or bite the shit out of you. You don't need an analysis to figure out you should leave them. You just fucking leave. You don't need to understand chemistry to know take your hand out of the fire. If you need an analysis to figure out you don't deserve it then no offence you're stupid. Someone hits you man or woman, fuck trying to figure out if they're a narcacist... Leave. It's not rocket science and you don't need to go through all of this. Girl disrespects you. Leave. Girl hits you. Leave. Fuck whatever her personality is... Just fucking leave. Don't get into the cycle to then therapy a way out. If the next girl bites you, are you gonna blame yourself if her handwriting was different or she exhibited none of those characterstics? Never blame yourself for someone abusing you.


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I think what Neo is saying is have some personal accountability (learn healthy boundaries) so as to avoid getting involved in another abusive situation.


Work on learning about what healthy vs unhealthy boundaries look like. You invest yourself early on that's part of your attachment pattern (preoccupied anxious), so you backward rationalize every reason to stay to allay your attachment anxiety.


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I understand. I will do the following; Open a Journal in the Field Reports section. Where she will not be mentioned. I just spoke to my mother about therapy, she agreed. You have mentioned in the past issues I have, may I ask what should I address in specific, any advice talking to a therapist. This is so embaressing to be honest that one person has made me feel this way, that it has come to this, and the fact I still miss them (which I cannot explain) makes me feel ten times worse.


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I understand. I will do the following; Open a Journal in the Field Reports section. Where she will not be mentioned. I just spoke to my mother about therapy, she agreed. You have mentioned in the past issues I have, may I ask what should I address in specific, any advice talking to a therapist. This is so embaressing to be honest that one person has made me feel this way, that it has come to this, and the fact I still miss them (which I cannot explain) makes me feel ten times worse.
i don't know what your question is


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:18 pm 
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Look, its really clear to me that this girl used me, used me for my status, chipped away at my confidence and self esteem, then when I reached a point I couldnt take it anymore, I tried to break up with her. She then fucking didnt let me or talked me into staying with her, to just get broken up with a month later. During that month I got ignored fully, who the fuck does that to someone. Like who is that fucked up?

If I tell that to my new therapist, he will ask me maybe what we need to work on me with me, im just asking from the outside, as you guys can see it from the outside coming in, what are the key issues I should raise with ME so I can improve?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:21 pm 
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Look, its really clear to me that this girl used me, used me for my status, chipped away at my confidence and self esteem, then when I reached a point I couldnt take it anymore, I tried to break up with her. She then fucking didnt let me or talked me into staying with her, to just get broken up with a month later. During that month I got ignored fully, who the fuck does that to someone. Like who is that fucked up?

If I tell that to my new therapist, he will ask me maybe what we need to work on me with me, im just asking from the outside, as you guys can see it from the outside coming in, what are the key issues I should raise with ME so I can improve?
She didn't do anything, this has more to do with you.

You're a mess due to poor boundaries and making poor choices.

Who cares what she 'did', she's probably already moved on by now.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:23 pm 
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How the fuck can you say she didnt do anything? Ive been bitten, hit, scratched, called names for 7 months, ive been slapped, and youre saying I didnt do anything... now youre defending her...


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How the fuck can you say she didnt do anything? Ive been bitten, hit, scratched, called names for 7 months, ive been slapped, and youre saying I didnt do anything... now youre defending her...
No. Just have yet to hear you take any accountability. You're so focused on blaming her for your choices.


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I should have walked away, I should have said no im done, I should have blocked her, deleted her, never replied to her or want to reply to her on my own terms. I should have done it all. I wish I did that now... but i didnt. You are right.

But saying 'she didnt do anything' is an understatement


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I should have walked away, I should have said no im done, I should have blocked her, deleted her, never replied to her or want to reply to her on my own terms. I should have done it all. I wish I did that now... but i didnt. You are right.

But saying 'she didnt do anything' is an understatement
So you allowed her SPAM to continue towards you, with hopes you could somehow control the situation, particularly her and get what you want. You're a co-dependent, you aren't innocent in all this, you were a willing participant.


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Go ahead keep blaming her and accuse her of doing all this to you - nobody will try to deny you of your right to do this. U'll stay exactly where you are but again that's your choice.


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