well , I hang out several times with a hb9(in group). she seems attracted to me . She always tries to get my attention , I am always making silly challenges , pua basics bla bla bla . I think I reached confort but , at the same time I cant hold conversations , we always end up in long awkward silence , when is just us .

Problems : she is the " nice type" ... so you know , she have tons of orbiters , lots of guys tried and she rejected all. So , you think , "you will give up , coward . " . Well is the opposite , I just decided "fuck it, I will not be one of her orbiters", tomorrow I will make my move tomorrow for a date. My problem ... awkward silences , the conversation don't flows when is just us, suggestions ?(wait? go for it?)

edit: another question...I was with her yesterday, it is a beta move text her instead of do it in person?(she just rejected another guy from the group hahahahaha)I will not see her in the nexts days, maybe,big maybe, on the weekend.

How long has this nonsense gone on for? if you sensed this the first time meeting her, you should've made a move that day or week.

It's likely you're now in friend zone. However, it can be fixed. Stop playing and make your intentions clear and authoritative by asking her out.

If she's in your group and you see her his weekend, isolate and escalate. If you don't see her, ask her out via text.

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update...well, I talked with her this morning. She said "Yes, but maybe I am out of my job this week. So could be difficult. If yes, I have to find seek jobs on this holiday"(it is holiday and It is true, I talked with her brother yesterday about the job situation, she doesnt know that I know). So, for me is a shit test, I said "It is a meet to know each other rlx, not too expensive, besides during the day you solve this, and the night relax a little bit with me. dont worry with logistics. I got it"...she laughts, but doesnt responded yet.

During the day she will meet another guy from our social group(2 guys and her), he is traveling to another state for a couple months(I know that because, he told me hahuahuahau. I dont know him very well and he is in love with her. He told everybody). And tried to hook with her yesterday, so probably he is the reason of the delay. I am cool, talking with another targets and blabla bla. At least I made my move.


ps: it is not onetis, all the information just came to me indirectly. People like to tell secrets to me. Why?dont know hhahahah

Sounds like your gossip boy hahaha push it harder maybe you can befriend with her brother, it would increwse your chances. Otherways it is up to you, make ypur mate dance to impress her hahahahha

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You're coming at the girl from the wrong frame of mind. You're trying to impress her. I'll put the pressure on the girl and stare at her like I'm waiting for her to say something. Stop coming at a girl like a peasant and talk to her as if you're the king.

hahhaha, people of this group have "oversharing" problems. Anyway, she took hours to reply, but the date is in motion. I dont what happen between her and the guy, but fuck it hahaha, focus on my game.

I have high value on this group. The problem was I took too long to act...I had other target but she disappeared from the group and I moved to this target. But I think you are right, I invested too much. My frame is "I am late, gogogo, hurry, hurry". The way I msg her for a date was "hey, drinks and dance, x day, x time. lets go" and it was the right frame, but I sliped later.

The date is set, but I have to change this mental state of "late". After the conversation, and read this feedback, I got another shit test,and I said "I just like to keep things simple", she says "I need that in my life" and said "ok cool, see you thursday. bye"

This is hard to understand.

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tl;dr

A social circle with several people(I have high value on this group), a hb9 among then, I have lots of IOI's , but I have problem to hold conversation with her and I am not shy. I asked her out, she accepted, but with some resistance(shit test?). And I have this problem of silence with her. She is a introvert, Suggestions?


notes: In this same group, has a guy crazy in love for her. I dont have fear o competition, but he already made some damage.

Where have you shared anything more than any other common orbiter? You are seen as just another free lunch.

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Get some drinks into her, that should easy up the SPAM.

Seriously though, practice bantering. Awkward silences happen when you're constantly looking for something to talk about. Try not being in your head so much and instead be present in the moment. You don't need to talk about anything specific. Flirt and banter. Tease her. Laugh at fat people stuffing themselves with burgers.

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hmm, I dont get it, do you mean common interests?free lunch?she is a feminist haha, she never will agree to pay for her.

I will try that.

9's and 10's are awkward man.. Most of them. Unless they had something traumatic happen in their past they tend to be a little socially off. And I'm not talking about your small town 9 or 10.. I'm talking about genuine tens. You don't need to develop social skills when the world invites you to hang with them simple because of how you look.

But to be honest, it sounds like you're getting typical orbiter SPAM. You haven't made a move yet, but you're analyzing writing on forums. Make your move before you post.

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I made my move(monday, schedule to yesterday), she accept, but yesterday she flaked, with a BS excuse,I just "ok cool, bla bla bla". After she sent me a message "Did you go to X place?"(I made other plans), I still dont responded yet. I will do it now,but in a neutral way...I probably will next her, since she dont offer a reschedule. Just a "maybe one day" answer like