Every time I read statements like the two above I believe that you need to get injected with a huge pressured water jet from a hose just like a movie prison scene until come to your senses. Are you SO disconnected from reality?

The worst behavior of them all is showing affection and behaving "lovey" for the eyes of the people in public while behind the scenes being the biggest bitch of them all. That is a master manipulator. Trust me. This "woman" is full of drama and will only do so much as someone will allow her.

-She will NEVER be happy in ANY relationship because something will be wrong all the time. One time the boyfriend has so and so and so flaw, another boyfriend has it too nice, another one she will not be attracted to but use him as a provider and so on.
- Never keeps her promises.
- It is ok for her to do a certain thing, e.g. look at a handsome guy passing but not ok for you to look at a girl.
- Demands for you to spend more time with her in expense of other things you would have been doing or friends.
- Doesn't like some of your friends or at a certain point some of your friends who she used to like does something and she doesn't want to meet him anymore.
- Blames you that you do not make plans. But hey doesn't it get boring after some time doing the same shit allover again with just the same one person, with whom you really don't get along with?
- Throw temper tantrums for unreasonable reasons and you have either two choices: shut up or stand your ground and start a mini world war.
- Basically all the above you said.
- She is reasonably hot and charming. Because no one would take this shit from an unattractive chick.

Please shut up. It is not only your fault. Your fault is for taking it for so long and trying to fix it.

You need a new perspective in life. A wake up call. More extreme measures. If you think you are in despair then see that there is worst suffering in this world. Read news stories, watch videos, look at pictures of war and suffering, killing of innocents, civilians, sex trafficking, murders. When you read enough and realize that there is more to life than your little drama then feel grateful and appreciative of what you have and the opportunities that will come.

Then start focusing on the positive part of life, read stories and watch videos of success and self development.

- Make a playlist on youtube and save all those videos there. Some videos of my list are from Tony Robbins, Elliott hulse, channel "Charisma on Command".
- Get the book "how to stop worrying and start living" by Dale Carnegie.
- Have some meaningful outings with friends. Doesn't have to be out. Can be a pizza and movie.
- Use any anger you have on weight training.
- Consider starting martial arts.
- Assign someone to have you accountable or start a new thread about the steps you are doing to improve your life. Post weekly.

NO MESSAGE AT ALL. DO NOT SEND THE MESSAGE. I REPEAT DO NOT SEND ANY MESSAGE. You sort out the outstanding issue like this:

1) Send the bag with the UPS. Pay and do not expect the money. She does not have the courtesy or respect for you to pay you back. Send her the following last message:

"Sent your luggage by UPS. Tracking code ..........." No other message. No reply. Or just register her phone number to UPS and they will contact her.

2) Give the luggage to a common friend and then that friend will notify her to pick it up from them. No MESSAGE from you.

Start a new thread with your progress. You are not allowed to post about her in that thread. No mention at all. NOTHING. We have all observed that normal reasoning and soft words do not work. It might be beneficial to try a new approach. In this thread you can talk about your actions to reinvent yourself. and can also talk about anything else such as thoughts you have about the meaning of life, stamp collections, cat videos in youtube, snowboarding, ping pong, Ancient Rome, Time travel, black holes, cooking recipes, War in Vietnam etc. But not her. You had enough. We had enough.

Skinny u ve abused and i think you addicted to it. You will never happy with this mindset. Stop keeping busy this forum, here is not for pussies like you. So do ourselves a favor and fuck off.

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Groovy Boy,

Thank you for the replies. I genuinely appreciate it. I know your perspective on this is writing 'get over her'. I just want to reason with her. There has to be a part of her who wonders what I am up to, almost two years together and talking everyday together, there has to be that side of her that wonders what I am up to.

However, on the other side, I think about her shoes, that she probably has lost total respect for me because of her friends and what they said combined with my actions. The point is - it kills me that she views me in this light. And to be honest, I dont think I can move on until I reverse that. Genuinely. It kills me that she see's me in that light.

It eats me up, that someone I built two years, invested a lot of time in, in a matter of days views me the completely opposite way. I know there's a quote, it takes years to build trust and seconds to lose it. Guess I am just experiencing that. Can you help me understand the following, I think it will help me, as I have thought about these questions.

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1) Did she want this break up for a long time? If so, then why didn't she just end it a while ago. Her saying - 'I will never be able to trust you after you messaged my friends'. Is that the truth, or an 'out'. When I confronted her saying that she is using an out, she told me to fuck off.

2) Did she love me, honestly. If this was so easy for her to get over, I dont even know if she loved me. 3 months ago when things got bad, I would say to her, then why dont you just break up with me, and she would reply - 'Because I love you'. If she truly loved me, surely she would want to know what I am up to, how I am doing, it literally CANNOT be this easy to just move on for someone and forget.

3) A girl like her cannot be single, she just hasn't and won't. She has to be in control, most likely she has moved onto the next or started to try and talk to the next. I remember when we first started talking, it was amazing, i felt so cared for and loved by this girl because she was giving so much attention. It kills me to think that she might be already doing that.

4) Do I have any chance of even getting this girl back, with everything said. I know a lot of you may exert a huge sigh of WHAT THE FUCK when I write that, I am just curious, in a sense of just everything that has happened between her and I. Do I have any chance.

Ditto

I'd advise anyone else to stop responding. Skinny is either trolling or not listening. We are just wasting our time.

Jeezish Christ I am not a 'troll'. Im a man desperately trying to figure this out and think of all options.

Aren't posts about your ex-girlfriend supposed to result in a ban in the relationship section of the forum? This shit is so out of the realm of pickup now that it shouldn't even be a subject on this forum. Skinny, you've been given pickup related options. Go to a relationship forum since pickup advice is not what you are looking for. You'll get no other options here.

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Go to a relationship board that deals with co dependency. Having this forum as your own personal thought journal, and to seek validation and witness your rumination process is not what this forum is for.

You're looking for every reason to blame this person, you're holding yourself as a victim. Where I drew the line was when you'd posted photos of the bite marks, that's just too much - you're allowing yourself to endure this abuse. My compassion has worn thin here, you'd be best served to find a therapist in your area, and please do not private message me.

Why did you draw the line when I posted pictures of the bite marks?

My fucking theory about this bastard is that he tries to replace his ex abusive behaviours with our humiliations. He already knew if he writes shit about her we will harsh him. What he wanted is be ashamed , get insulted by us. Cuz he is addicted to abuse.

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I wasnt going to reply again...but damn...good assessment dice. Simple but brilliant I think. He's not posting to get advice, he's posting to hear how pathetic he is. This is sick.

Back to not posting on these threads.

[Enter skinny with "Why do you think I like to be abused?"]

No, I just think its fucked up how you think that I like that or this. Im at the lowest point I have ever been at in my life and I just dont understand it.

Also Dice, no offence, you sound like an utter prick, its hilarious because I would never take any advice from someone like you. You chip in on what anyone else says on every single one of your posts, thinking you give solid advice.

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Seriously, the only place I find solace in my day is this forum. I come here and I look forward to your answers. They soothe me and believe it or not, I have made positive strides. I have not messaged her, I am still trying to understand this. This however doesn't mean that I am not always thinking about it, sad, upset. Which I am.

I feel very lonely, extremely lonely.

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