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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:38 am 
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By the way, it's clear that you kept a list of her wrong doings. For the majority of those behaviors it's almost impossible to prove the motive behind it. Slapping you, being verbally abusive, being unappreciative are all things you can say were hurtful. However being appreciative is an expectation and when she wasn't being appreciative then you should have stopped expecting it. Now you resent her because you wanted to be appreciated but she wouldn't give it to you. Your fault on that one. She didn't make you do those behaviors and if you wanted to do them just to make her like you even though you knew she in the past wouldn't acknowledge them then that's like being crazy. Doing the same thing expecting a different result. Stop believing she can change. She can't unless she chooses to. She doesn't see a big problem with how she treated you so she won't change. Now ask yourself, without the fantasy of fixing her, would you still want to be with her? You need to take your mind off her...completely....

When you've started to feel some sort of relief like life is better without thinking about her, you will know what to do.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 10:50 am 
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WHY SO SICKINNY?

It is done, done fuckin done, congratulations, stop bitching about it.
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Haha... "out of curiousity"....

Omg

You made a thread on how to stay with an abuser... Now you want the abuser back.

Go see her.

Fight for her man. You really gonna give up on her and let her find someone better? Show her your man enough to fight for her
I was waiting from him to write a book 'How to have a relationship with an abuser for dummies' :mrgreen:

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:52 pm 
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I just want different perspectives on this. Everyone knows the shitty abusive relationship I was in. Somehow she managed to turn it around and act as if she was the victim and she ended it with me.

I have a question, is it really true that when you reach a point where the relationship is just over, toxic, and she ignores you, doesn't reply, is the best thing to do nothing. It's just done?

Is there any plan/tactic/any story, letter, or words that can be used.

I messaged her friends asking if there was another guy, or what was up and she basically labelled me a stalker. After being treated like shit, called names, and so more I reached a place I was just so insecure and didn't know what to think.

Now I have to recreate myself, better myself, I was just thinking, even if I did want to fight for her, out of curiosty and a gaming point, how would I even go about it.
You weren't a stalker. A stalker is someone who is following someone else over a long period of time. You asked if she was with someone else. That's just normal reaction of someone who wants someone else.
Obviously she is an abusive person. You are not in love with her and what you are experiencing is not love or desire. You are addicted to her.
Realise that all she does is an act to control you. She knows that you want her and she is using it to get an ego boost out of your pain and your willingness to put up with anything she does to you. Every time she does something bad and you put up with it she knows she can control you and she gets reassured that she has value.
The reason she dumped you is not another man. She dumped you because you were easy to manipulate and she is sure that she can control your mind. This woman doesn't have romantic feelings towards you. I doubt that she even loves herself. She believes that she is more than what she actually is, she knows that and she is trying to get validation that what her eyes see is not true. A person who can't love herself can't love anyone else.

People like her (ie abusers) are in a constant inner battle with themselves. They have a low self esteem and high expectations from themselves. That's why they are in a constant need to control others. If you read books on abuse/domestic violence you will be able to recognise her behavioral pattern and understand why she does what she does.
You are not codependent. The problem is not that you have low self esteem. A woman like such would have been chipping off the confidence you have gradually until you have nothing left. So don't beat yourself up.
The whole lesson out of this is that you need to start standing up for yourself. You need to know what you want and not settle down for anything less, you need to become stronger and learn how to detach emotionally from someone who is not worth your time.
You see, people like you, who fall victims of such personalities are good people, people who usually wear their heart on their sleeve. Experiences like this help you build character and toughen up.
As it was mentioned before a person with solid self esteem and confidence would had dropped her since the beginning or would have stopped considered her important and maybe would have used her for sex only or when he needed her for whatever he needed her. That's true... HOWEVER... very FEW people have the ability to emotionally detach on call.
You have two options in your case... Number one is go no contact, block any form of direct and indirect communication, block her social media, change number, let go of common friends.. erase her from everywhere. This will help you move on and rebuild yourself stronger and better.
the other option is become a sociopath like her.. lol that's not an option. You are either born a sociopath or you are not. So yeah forget about it
See it as a learning opportunity. When you feel pain think "whatever doesn't kill me makes me stronger".
And please keep in mind that there are good women out there who have all the desirable things she has but they don't treat men in such a way. Don't paint with the same brush all women.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:01 pm 
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You are done. Quit looking for a loophole to get her back.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:25 pm 
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I was thinking of writing her a letter, things I fucked up, things I did wrong, how I was wrong to message her friends and give it to her.

I just dont get how this is so easy for her.
Good that she dumped you.
The "Out of curiosity" thing. Stop beating around the bush. We all know you by now :D

If you really wanna feel better and you need a "closure" for your self only (which by the way there is no really thing such thing as a closure, maybe only a realization within yourself that this chapter of your life is done, provided you with an experience which will be a reference point for the future), then only write this letter under two conditions.

1) You cannot do it right now. Let time pass with no contact what so ever and let your self settle down emotionally. It needs to be at a point where you don't need her anymore. At that point you might not even want to write the letter. You must block her from any possible means of communication not because "YOU punish her" but because "YOU need to prevent YOURSELF from sending another message".

2) You are doing it for you and only you and not seeking any reaction from her. Even if there could be some reaction, you shouldn't really know because you would have already implemented condition No.1

If you cannot do the above then do not write the letter. A letter right now will not make you feel better.

On the other hand there is no need for closure. It is what it is, it was what it was.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:50 pm 
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This is some of the best advice I have received, however, how are you guys so sure that this is who she is. I remember a few times she would take the time to write me long messages, how she perceived things, took the time to tell me what I did which was wrong and so forth. She is so friendly at the beginning, and to be honest loving, it hit me by surprise. I always ask myself, was it my neediness which flipped her switch, or things I did.

Did she truly not love me and therefore wants nothing to do with me now...


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 5:53 pm 
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This is some of the best advice I have received, however, how are you guys so sure that this is who she is. I remember a few times she would take the time to write me long messages, how she perceived things, took the time to tell me what I did which was wrong and so forth. She is so friendly at the beginning, and to be honest loving, it hit me by surprise. I always ask myself, was it my neediness which flipped her switch, or things I did.

Did she truly not love me and therefore wants nothing to do with me now...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:12 pm 
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This is some of the best advice I have received, however, how are you guys so sure that this is who she is. I remember a few times she would take the time to write me long messages, how she perceived things, took the time to tell me what I did which was wrong and so forth. She is so friendly at the beginning, and to be honest loving, it hit me by surprise. I always ask myself, was it my neediness which flipped her switch, or things I did.

Did she truly not love me and therefore wants nothing to do with me now...
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:06 pm 
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Guys, I just want to understand it, that's all. If she was like this the whole time, then how did I not pick up on this. That's why I'm scared my behaviour flipped hers. That I triggered her to be so rude.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:09 pm 
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Guys, I just want to understand it, that's all. If she was like this the whole time, then how did I not pick up on this. That's why I'm scared my behaviour flipped hers. That I triggered her to be so rude.
You aren't responsible for the way other people feel.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:23 pm 
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Guys, I just want to understand it, that's all. If she was like this the whole time, then how did I not pick up on this. That's why I'm scared my behaviour flipped hers. That I triggered her to be so rude.
I'm pretty sure you were the catalyst to her behavior. The fact that you can keep going and going about the same thing over and over again for months could drive anyone crazy. However, the way she responds to you is her responsibility to keep under control.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:18 pm 
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So I was the catalyst and spark to her behaviour?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2016 8:20 pm 
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I'll spell it out for you, in terms of what NOT moving forward looks like:

Anytime you...

-seek resolution from her, or anyone for that matter
-defer your decision making process to someone else (e.g., her)
-have ANY sort of contact with her, even if she doesn't respond
-focus on what she's DOING to you, rather than keeping the focus on yourself (this extends to going onto forums such as this trying to decipher the motivation behind her behavior
-focus on how her life must be so great without you in it, meanwhile you're a mess, shut-off from the world around you
-BLAME - whether its directed at her or yourself
-allowing yourself to be consumed in the content/history/what you/she did and creating a (war) story about it sharing it with whomever is willing to listen
-remaining out-of-touch with your own needs
-taking any piece of advice and trying to use it to 'salvage' or fix the relationship (or her specifically)

...you're stifling your own progress. Perhaps you can use this list as a way of checking in with yourself before you post, or have some sort of brilliant idea to reach-out to her, or sit there and blame yourself (or her).

And yes, the common denominator in the above list is accountability for one's self.

In which case you might as well change your name to whysostifling.


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Skinny... You gotta post a pic of this chick. We can tell if shes crazy from a picture. Plus this better be some knockout.


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Skinny... You gotta post a pic of this chick. We can tell if shes crazy from a picture
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