So, I am a mid-40s Bachelor from NYC now in LA for last 3yrs.

I have used Match for the last 5+ years with what seemed like stellar results.

After the first 2yrs of rookie mistakes;I developed a system/logistics protocol/profile template that was pulling in min. 8 dates per month and 2 lays.

Quality was high (8-9s, 20s) and several epic lays (Hollywood actress; models, porn star, Hills orgy, 18-19s etc.)

My Match.com historical results:

2010: 4 lays
2011: 4 lays
2012: 24 lays
2013: 17 lays
2014: 14 lays
2015: 4 lays
2016: 0

However, in the last 18 mos; my system seems to have completely cratered.

Granted, I moved from NYC to LA (which in reality is like moving from a city of 8 million to 800,000 as LA "cities" are very small and closing logistics rival D-Day.

Nevertheless, '13 and '14 had respectable #s/quality; but '15 was horrific and quality was below 7s.

-Have Match filters & cut/paste mass-mail screens killed it?
-Has Tinder cratered Match?
-Have response rates permanently declined?
-Have too many guys flooded online dating?
-Have toomany attention Hos/bots killed Match?

Tinder only has 4 million U.S. Members; so 1-2 million female.
Match has 8 million Members; mostly US; so lets say 2-3 million female

Did all the young Match sluts leave for Tinder?

Totally baffled; had to resort to Euro FKKs to get 8-10s, 20s stunners.

Thanks

Riddle answer:

Match has a time filter on mass cut/paste texts; talked to an API guru.

Appears like 1/min no more than 5/hour; will auto ban you if same message over 50x

95% of my messages were blocked, even shown sent

Adjusting, and #s climbing daily

interesting.

Uhhh dude... as an expert on dating apps and automated algorithms that message, swipe, and like women for me, I'm going to say that NO ONE worth boning is on match.com anymore unless you want some divorced hag with ankle biters. I've been checking out tinder, hinge, bumble, and okcupid. about to check out grindr after some friends said it was like adult friend finder in app form but i'm already pretty busy with those four apps. Bumble has some certified dimes, but i haven't been able to get anyone to message me yet

Tinder.

Use it.

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Re: Tinder

as mentioned previously, Tinder's algo goes off your FB age, friends' age, and indexes you bottom of pile of 20s gals...aka ur invisible

RE: Match

Yes, its older (25-35); but given its paid, it removes the vast majority of time wasters/no shows/bots that riddle free sites. Also, GURANTEED u wont bang a 10s model or actual Hollywood acctress in 4 big studio movies off Tinder; on match I did..so for that aloneits worth the $10/mo for eternity

RE: Riddle answer intel

Got more intel, and its pretty clear that Match is throttling your messaging; its absolutely throttling on Tinder. Drill down on redit/quora and there are actuaries who have shown their throttling is very shady.

On Match, they cant totally get away with that because its a paid site and their are consumer protection laws that require showing that its a bonafide service with actual communication occuring.

Suffice it to say if you saw your response rates decline in last 24 mos, this is why.

There is a work around; you have to set up 3 Match.com accounts and message staggered per hour, and that will achieve what one account did 2 years ago. Your response rates will improve exponentially v. being 66% throttled. Cost is around $10/account(using 6mo guarntee); not bad if for $30/mo your crushing the throttled chumps.